Especial86

iTrader: (1)

Why hate?





Roll what you want.

tabezic

I love it!!! Looks bad ***

Raptorcustom

ford f150 raptor svt regular cab

NastyFFX4

iTrader: (1)

Is it yours?

tabezic

If its yours, please more pics!!!!!

WarSurfer

No such animal, not if you start with a new truck. You'll spend close to 75k trying to recreate what you get for 45k in the Raptor.

If all you are looking for is 'better than Raptor' suspension, you'll still exceed 50k and have vinyl seats and a 300hp v6.

New Raptor = 45k

Base v6 bottom of the barrel F150 4x4 = 28.5k

Front suspension & coilovers = ~ 8k
Rear springs & shocks = 3.9k
Front axles = 1.2k
Fenders & bedsides = 1.2k
Labor & paint = 10k

28.5 + 8 + 3.9 + 1.2 + 1.2 + 10 = 52.8k

I'm not saying the Raptor is the be all, end all. It is however a much better starting point cost wise than any other new F150.

Wilkinz027

If I'm going to 18" brenthel on the truck and a 4 link(or even one of the deaver set ups with 3.0s and bracing and air bumps) and fibreglass panels with 8" wider track width than the raptor and puting a full race motorsports turbo kit on it I will come out far a head of trying to get 700hp and 18" travel out of a raptor which I'm going to have to replace panels on too. And in Canada raptors are rolling out the door at 60k+ so if I can get in one that cheap I will come out faaaaaaaar ahead of buying a raptor and tearing it apart to put the same parts on it. Not to mention re-gearing it all and upgraded axles/driveshafts.

I'll give you if I was going to build a truck identical to the factory raptor I probably wouldn't come out ahead but I'm looking for much more than that.

Oh and lastly catzkinz are only like 1500 bucks if it still has factory seats maybe I'll get T-Rex stitched in them.

WarSurfer

All F150's are more expensive in Canada...

There aren't any suspension kits that are 8" wider than Raptors (brenthel is 2" wider per side - 4 total) and there aren't any 700hp ecoboosts so I'm not clear where you are going with this statement.

This topic has been discussed over and over, it costs more money to equal a Raptor, it will cost even more money to surpass a Raptor. The only way to beat the value of a Raptor is to start with a used truck or use Raptor take off parts. Even then you will still need things like gears, the wide track rear end, etc...

SDHQ built an EcoRaptor (surpassed stock Raptor specs) and it cost them over 80k using Raptor LCAs. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess they are better at it than the avg joe.

My Raptor was the black Raptor Ian drove on Xtreme4x4 for the half-price Raptor build. Even at his discounted prices (which us mortals couldn't replicate) he has close to 30k in it without any labor costs.

As I posted earlier, if your only goal is better suspension, yes - you can buy better stuff and do the labor yourself and come out spending marginally less. You still don't have any of the other parts of the Raptor package - ORM, high speed locking diff in 2 or 4wd, yaw stabilization, off road abs settings, etc...

Also, don't forget that Raptor take off parts go for a premium so the cost of upgrading a Raptor is reduced by selling the factory parts - 1,500 to 2,500 for just the front suspension for example (mileage dependent). Front fenders can be sold for more than the cost of wider aftermarket ones, seats can be sold for more than suspension seats, etc, etc. Nobody is lining up to buy regular F150 fenders or vinyl seats and the suspension is only worth it's weight as scrap.

I'm not a cool aid drinker, I know there are much more capable rigs out there than a factory Raptor. When you take into account the total package though, it is hard to beat cost wise.

I applaud the guys that do their own thing and make exceptional rigs - but I've done the math and in the long run its cheaper to start with a Raptor.

Raptorcustom

:coo l:

Wilkinz027

High offset rims make up the other 4". There will be 700hp ecos soon enough. Not that I'm sold on that I would be happy with a number of engine options I think this is the cheapest way to get that amount of power though. I think it will be cheaper than trying to get that out of the 6.2. If I'm replacing every part that makes it a raptor on either truck I don't see how I wouldn't come out ahead if I spend 30k on parts for a raptor or 30k on parts for an f-150 and all I lose for the difference in price of the trucks is off road abs (I'm sure I can figure something out for the locker easily enough). I spent 700 on brand new raptor take offs for my truck I wouldn't call that enough to make up the difference of the msrps on the trucks. When you can get 3.0" shocks for either end for 2600 ish custom valved I dunno how you sell 2.5s for 2500. And in the end it's largely about having an awesome project to work on most of which I wanna do myself cause it sounds like a lot of fun.

Sdhq also had to buy a frame and swap a cab onto a it I have no intention of doing that. I think they could have gone further than they did with 80k. But the raptor market was pretty fresh still when they did that.