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Old Mar 21, 2017 | 03:22 PM
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Looking at getting the pro-comp add a leaf kit (13137) for additional payload and less squating during towing. Also looking to get a 1.5 or 2 inch leveling kit for the front.

The question is: Can I install these helper springs and either without the spacer block or a smaller one to keep the rear of my truck at roughly the same height?

(For reference, I have a 2014 f-150 XLT 4x4 crew cab with the 6.5ft bed.)

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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 10:35 AM
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Also see Roadmaster Active Suspenson...adjustable from 500 lbs to 1500 lbs. I put this on for towing my camper (6500 lbs). No spacer blocks needed. Another key is to have load levelers to transfer weight to the front of the truck.
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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 10:48 AM
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Please be aware: no aftermarket part will increase your towing/payload capacity. This rating is set by your GVWR/GCWR specified on your door sticker. In my experience, I am often limited by my GVWR with 10%-15% of my trailer weight on the tongue.

An AAL will definitely improve your towing/hauling experience, but don't rely on it as a way to increase your capacity to unsafe levels. I have heard great things about the Roadmaster Active Suspension. Its next on my list of mods this spring.

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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 12:55 PM
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I know that helper springs won't increase the towing/hauling capacity. I not looking the overload my truck anytime soon.

The reason I'm looking at AAL kits is because I'm wanting to level out my truck but I don't want my truck to get too nose up while towing. Because currently with my truck when towing, my truck squats enough in the rear that it is close to level with a little rake left.

I'm wanting to use a leveling kit (1.5-2") in the front. And in the rear maybe add an AAL kit for more support, but remove the factory spring block to that the height isn't as affected much by the extra springs.

I hope I did a better job explaining my thoughts/plans. Thank you for the replies. Have you seen a setup similar to what I described?
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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 01:16 PM
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Haha, yeah I was fortunate to read through what your intent was. On a previous truck I had helper springs in the form of add-a-leafs. I wasn't impressed with the form/ride and this time I went a different route. In addition to the RAS I have a 2" level. This leaves my truck at 3/4" high in the rear with the RAS adjusted to 1500 lbs. If I set the RAS to 500 lbs I'm pretty level. Even with the RAS my truck drops about 1-1/2" with my 6500 lb camper on the hitch...I use a ProPride hitch not a ball hitch. Very pricey but worth the cost. I can adjust the load levelers to transfer the weight up front and there-by level the truck. How much weight are you towing?
I'm inclined to believe depending on the level kit you select and the particular stance of your truck you will be "trial and error" to get what you like as a set-up. All trucks not being created equal the rake is different from truck-to-truck. Short answer on your AAL kit and blocks I never removed the factory spring blocks so I don't know what adverse effects, if any, it might have.
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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Swall
Looking at getting the pro-comp add a leaf kit (13137) for additional payload and less squating during towing. Also looking to get a 1.5 or 2 inch leveling kit for the front.

The question is: Can I install these helper springs and either without the spacer block or a smaller one to keep the rear of my truck at roughly the same height?

(For reference, I have a 2014 f-150 XLT 4x4 crew cab with the 6.5ft bed.)

Thank you,
Spencer
I did just what you are wanting to do. I added the AAL and removed the block, it's rides great and doesn't squat near as bad as it did stock. I also have icon shocks that are a huge improvement over stock. It made feel a little bouncy with stock shocks.
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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 02:49 PM
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Good to know...and good point with the stock shocks I would not have figured that.
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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 06:24 PM
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Similar case here. '14 Crew 4x4 5.5' box.

I added the same kit you mention in your original post. I have a 2" AS level in the front and ended up pulling the 1.25" OEM block in the rear. My truck sits about 3/4" higher in the back than front. I also added Fox 2.0's on the rear. Very happy with the ride and the lack of squatting when I put some weight in the box. The long leaf kits ride way better than the short ones.



To give you an idea, here is how it currently sits when the summer tires are on it.

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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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Thank you for all of your responses.

Blown, thank you for sharing your picture. That's almost exactly what I'm after. I would love to put the Fox 2.0's all around, with the pro-comp AAL kit in the rear. Along with some 33's. Still trying to decide on a tire though.
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 10:43 PM
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Winters are 285/70/17 (33x11.5") Ridge Grapplers.

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In this pic there is over 500lbs of stuff in the box.
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