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Old 08-17-2012, 09:32 PM
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This is all I said and then everyone got their feelings hurt:

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Did you read about what they do to the geometry of a front end? Might want to look into that.

I can't believe how many people are oblivious to the fact that a leveling kit really screws with a front end. People will learn one day...
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I still don't understand why you're even posting on this thread. If you hate leveling kits, that's great. Start your own "leveling kits suck" thread. You say you're trying to warn people about the damage leveling kits can cause, but in reality you are coming across as a jack ***. I did a lot research on the Bilsteins, and that is what I felt was the best decision for ME and MY truck. Get over yourself and quit being so ignorant.
I was nice about it until people started coming across as dicks. I don't care how much research you did. You made a bad decision. I'm not here to pick on you so quit getting butt hurt. I'm here to warn EVERYONE who reads a thread like this that portrays them as so great to instead reevaluate their decision before they make a horrible one.

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Old 08-17-2012, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jonbar87

I was nice about it until people started coming across as dicks. I don't care how much research you did. I'm not here to pick on you so quit getting butt hurt. I'm here to warn EVERYONE who reads a thread like this and thinks they're so great to reevaluate their decision before they make a horrible one.
Butt hurt? That's a standard military term. You in the military by chance?
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I KNOW for a fact I don't know everything. However I do think that I know more than the average ignorant joe blow on this forum though...obviously, because a lot of them think level kits are all that and they aren't. That is all.
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That's insulting to everyone on this forum, especially the real ASE techs on here, who did not get their experience on a farm, but in a shop. Just because you have lift, doesn't mean you know about suspensions.
Insulting to EVERYONE? Quit putting words in my mouth. Big difference between "everyone" and the "average joe blow." There are some very intelligent people on here...far more intelligent than I. It's just that from what some of you have said in this particular thread I conclude it's not you...

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Butt hurt? That's a standard military term. You in the military by chance?
You do realize that I can view who has viewed my profile, right...

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Old 08-17-2012, 09:52 PM
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Ha! I have never been "butt hurt" by anyone. That must be something you are familiar with.
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Ha! I have never been "butt hurt" by anyone. That must be something you are familiar with.
Then quit acting like it.

You guys act like some of the kids I work with. Can't take constructive criticism or any useful information in the least little bit. Always think you're right and when you get proven wrong you get, well, butt hurt.
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i think it was this part that made it bad ..... u only quoted the first part

I know more than the average ignorant joe blow on this forum though...obviously, because a lot of them think level kits are all that and they aren't.
that puts 100's of us in that statement and some of us know way more than you

your comment in my sig started all of this ...... destroy your front end geometry thus causing catastrophic failure

thats still funny to me when most people who have them have 40k,50k,60k,70k ect and have yet to replace the ball joints
thats math and numbers real world numbers
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Originally Posted by jonbar87

Insulting to EVERYONE? Quit putting words in my mouth. Big difference between "everyone" and the "average joe blow." There are some very intelligent people on here...far more intelligent than I. It's just that from what some of you have said in this particular thread I conclude it's not you...

You do realize that I can view who has viewed my profile, right...
I was sincerely interested to know. I'm not here snipping at anyone.
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Originally Posted by gr8hntr
i think it was this part that made it bad ..... u only quoted the first part



that puts 100's of us in that statement and some of us know way more than you

your comment in my sig started all of this ...... destroy your front end geometry thus causing catastrophic failure

thats still funny to me when most people who have them have 40k,50k,60k,70k ect and have yet to replace the ball joints
thats math and numbers real world numbers
I didn't start acting that way until everyone started acting like a bunch of dicks. I figured fine, I'll quit being mr. nice guy and dish it back. Don't dish it out if you can't take it...I was nice up until then.

And yup. You're right. My bad. Leveling is the way to go everyone. It's good for your front end.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=level+kit+ball+joint+fail

gr8hntr...you wouldn't call this a catastrophic failure?
http://www.f150online.com/forums/200...all-joint.html

http://www.f150online.com/forums/200...t-failure.html

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/leakin...ng-kit-105960/

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218039


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I was sincerely interested to know. I'm not here snipping at anyone.
Not a problem.

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a warn boot catastrophic failure? no
i have seen boots ripped on stock trucks

the point is u are findin stuff like this and cryin wolf dude
plz start a thread and ask home many have had problems plz
and u will see
i give up i tried again but u just cant see it .. i feel like im at home with the 10 year old
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Originally Posted by gr8hntr
a warn boot catastrophic failure? no
i have seen boots ripped on stock trucks

the point is u are findin stuff like this and cryin wolf dude
plz start a thread and ask home many have had problems plz
and u will see
i give up i tried again but u just cant see it .. i feel like im at home with the 10 year old
Why do I need to start another thread when there are hundreds already out there saying the exact same thing I am...? I'm just trying to point it out to you guys...I don't need to start yet ANOTHER thread. I just wanted to put a stop to the "leveling kits are awesome" myth before MORE misinformation was spread and obviously it got way out of hand. I've pasted you the links and even showed you how to google stuff...there's not much more I can do at this point. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink. I'm not going to waste my time making ANOTHER thread about it. If everything that I said in this thread doesn't make it clear, than nothing will. If you don't choose to believe it, that's fine. I don't care, but it doesn't change the facts.


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