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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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According to the article below, it is. Do you guys agree w/ the writer's opinion that its not a big deal though? I'm assuming there is a lot of experience w/ the problems he's mentioned.

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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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I've had no problems driving uphill or downhill. UPDATE: ok, actually, that article is dubious and so specious as not to be serious. First off, look who wrote it.. yahoo? REally? Look what the author is stating... Ford is dealing with complaint on.... the my touch ? Really? What percentage of F150's are sold with My Touch screens? What percentage of F150's sold with MY TOUCH interactive screens are reporting problems?

Then the author says, don't let his set-up specious argument about Fords' falling rating keep you from buying a Ford. What??? He says nothing about Ford trucks or their quality ratings..

Hey , good news though... it's FRIDAY!!! Time for a freaking Margarita!

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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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Ford sent this to us dealers via FMC Dealer:

J.D. Power & Associates today has released its annual Initial Quality Study. Industry issues around new vehicle launches, connectivity technologies and powertrains also drove our scores lower, as we’ve been indicating to our key stakeholders since April. Ford saw the biggest year-over-year drop, falling to 23rd of 28. Lincoln moves from 8th to 17th as MKX mix heavily influence the brand’s overall score. On the plus side, F-150 and Taurus are award winners. Please see the text below for key messages and questions & answers that you could be asked.
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• We listen closely to customer feedback such as today’s J.D. Power report, and we use it to make continuous improvements to ensure we provide customers the highest-quality vehicles.
  • We announced in April, during our first-quarter financial report, that we expected mixed quality results in North America this year after closely listening to feedback from our customers.
  • This same feedback now shows that we largely are back on track after we addressed near-term quality issues with MyFord Touch and a few of our powertrains.
  • This feedback also shows we have leading customer satisfaction, even as we quickly address near-term issues. More than 50 percent of customers are telling us that SYNC has been a key factor in their purchase decision, and customer satisfaction with MyFord Touch is even higher than our first-generation SYNC system – at 73 percent.
  • We remain absolutely committed to serving our customers with vehicles that have the highest quality, fuel efficiency, safety, smart design and value.
Q&A:
Who is J.D. Power and what is the IQS Study? J.D. Power is one of several independent marketing firms consumers look to when assessing automotive products and brand. Each year, they perform an annual study where they evaluate customer satisfaction with new vehicles that have been in service for three months.
Why such a big drop in the J.D. Power results? What went wrong this year at Ford? The J.D. Power study says that many automakers, including Ford, experienced issues with newly launched vehicles, new connectivity technology such as our SYNC and MyFord Touch innovations, and new powertrain technologies such as our fuel-saving transmissions. These issues drove lower ratings for our brands and some of our key vehicles.
Is this news a surprise? We always listen to our customers as part of our continuous improvement effort, and customers identified these issues this spring. You might remember that we announced in April, during our first-quarter financial report, that we expected mixed quality results in North America this year. This same feedback now shows that we largely are back on track after addressing the near-term issues.
Also on the positive side, we were pleased to learn that two of our flagship vehicles – F-150 and Taurus – won awards from J.D. Power in this study for having the best initial quality of any vehicle in their segments. This is a real accomplishment for the team, especially considering we launched four new powertrains on the F-150 in recent months.
How are we addressing the MyFord Touch issues? We identified early on that the issue is two-fold: education and functionality. First, we are improving our instructional and “how-to” materials so customers are able to more easily understand and ask questions about how to use the system. Second, we are updating the system software to enhance functionality – much like software updates for home computers, smartphones and apps.
How are we addressing the powertrain issues? We identified two issues early on: education and functionality of our PowerShift transmission.
  • First, we are improving customer communication regarding our new-technology PowerShift transmission so customers are familiar with the different sounds and sensations that are part of this new system.
  • Second, some issues that customers identified were software related, and we have made updates to improve the shift timing, especially on deceleration and feel.
We largely are back on track after addressing these near-term quality issues.
Do we expect today’s news to affect sales or our image? We remain absolutely committed to serving our customers with vehicles that have the highest quality, fuel efficiency, safety, smart design and value.
The same customer feedback that identified these issues early on now shows that we largely are back on track after addressing near-term quality issues with MyFord Touch and a few of our powertrains. This feedback also shows we still have leading customer satisfaction. More than 50 percent of customers are telling us that SYNC has been a key factor in their purchase decision, and customer satisfaction with MyFord Touch is even higher than our first-generation SYNC system – at 73 percent.





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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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Blah, blah, blah.

Blah some more. Blah.

Thanks
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rmatzen
According to the article below, it is. Do you guys agree w/ the writer's opinion that its not a big deal though? I'm assuming there is a lot of experience w/ the problems he's mentioned.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...jd.html?cat=15
2011 F150 had the highest initial quality in the truck segment.

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/Ford/F-150/2011/Pickup/

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/Ford/F-...ickup/ratings/

And that with the flakey, bluetooth-dropping, Microsoft Sync system (which may or may not have been addressed in Sync 3.2.2).
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I guess what I took out of the article was that Ford's seemingly huge loss in ratings was really, in actuality, only because of the reported failure of the stupid MyTouch system that I don't even care about, and therefore there isn't much reason for concern.

After reading Anthony's quote, i'm gonna do some more research, especially since it states the F-150 won best initial quality. That's what I like to hear
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Amercian auto mfg's and quality haven't had a relationship since the 1950's.
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by truth
Amercian auto mfg's and quality haven't had a relationship since the 1950's.
Not true. Ford's Fusion is at the top of its class and Ford has made noticeable improvements in the quality of the vehicles they deliver to the dealers.

At issue is the level of professionalism on a service level where customer experiences can vary. Walk into a Mercedes (which struggles in JD Powers because of its GL line) or a Lexus dealer. There it is by purpose a better experience for the customer and a place where techs are encouraged to go the extra mile as well as to keep the clients' cars clean—and this in the face of what are basically much higher maintenance clientele.

Sadly, for the most part, the finest auto techs work in independent shops because they're paid more than at dealers. Worse, often the service manager is somebody with a business degree and not a former master tech—which leaves the manager open to getting snowed by lazy or unskilled techs or a work environment where excellence isn't expected on a technical level because business school teaches managers to focus on other things than properly diagnosing and rapidly repairing faults (which means stocking parts), while keeping the client happy because each client will be back every year to six to buy yet another new vehicle.

Anyway, Ford has made many wonderful improvements.


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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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All reports like that or similar generally have some sort of a bios for one reason or other. Also as mentioned, most of the complaint have to do with some of the newer technological advances Ford has made in recent years. It generally takes a while to work the bugs out of the higher tech amenities that Ford has introduced recently.

I have always driven Ford and will continue to unless something drastic happens which I don’t see happening in the foreseeable future.
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