Originally Posted by kulak

I know most of you EB and 5.0 V8 guys think the 3.7 V6 is too underpowered so I have a dare. Go test drive a Tacoma Double Cab Prerunner with the 4 cyclinder (new for 2011). Toyota made a death trap on wheels that can't get out of its own way.

I think Ford made the 3.7 F150 for customers like me - customers who'd generally prefer smaller foot print trucks:

• Wanted a compact Truck but aside from the outgoing ranger are no longer sold here
• Wanted a midsize truck but all get same or worse MPG then the 3.7, i.e. Nissan Frontier gets 15/20.
• Wanted a midsize with a turbo diesel (sold in rest of world), i.e. Nissan Navara, Toyota Hilux, the all new Ford Ranger. Nissan/Toyota just don't have the engineering talent to make their turbo diesels meet US emissions.
• I didn't even test drive the EB or the 5.0 V8 as it would be too temping for something I really don't need. Besides my 3.7 will be much less complex to work on with much more room in the engine bay.
• So I ended up with a 3.7 XLT Screw for slightly less money than a midsize wtih better mileage. I just had to tear apart my work bench to fit it in the garage.

Lastly the Nissans are very far from being reliable. I babied my Frontier and always had more problems than the odometer warranted. It was becoming my weekend project car.

Reading the forums new Frontier is even worse. Nissan uses one radiator to cool the engine and transmission but they haven't figured out how to keep ATF separate from antifreeze. When you get strawberry milkshake in your radiator you know your transmission is about to go out.

Originally Posted by kulak

I know most of you EB and 5.0 V8 guys think the 3.7 V6 is too underpowered so I have a dare. Go test drive a Tacoma Double Cab Prerunner with the 4 cyclinder (new for 2011). Toyota made a death trap on wheels that can't get out of its own way.

I think Ford made the 3.7 F150 for customers like me - customers who'd generally prefer smaller foot print trucks:

• Wanted a compact Truck but aside from the outgoing ranger are no longer sold here
• Wanted a midsize truck but all get same or worse MPG then the 3.7, i.e. Nissan Frontier gets 15/20.
• Wanted a midsize with a turbo diesel (sold in rest of world), i.e. Nissan Navara, Toyota Hilux, the all new Ford Ranger. Nissan/Toyota just don't have the engineering talent to make their turbo diesels meet US emissions.
• I didn't even test drive the EB or the 5.0 V8 as it would be too temping for something I really don't need. Besides my 3.7 will be much less complex to work on with much more room in the engine bay.
• So I ended up with a 3.7 XLT Screw for slightly less money than a midsize wtih better mileage. I just had to tear apart my work bench to fit it in the garage.

Lastly the Nissans are very far from being reliable. I babied my Frontier and always had more problems than the odometer warranted. It was becoming my weekend project car.

Reading the forums new Frontier is even worse. Nissan uses one radiator to cool the engine and transmission but they haven't figured out how to keep ATF separate from antifreeze. When you get strawberry milkshake in your radiator you know your transmission is about to go out.