At a Ford Dealer and Saw.......
11-29-2012, 09:31 PM
#31
Beer Gut Extraordinaire
Hell, I'd buy that XLT as-is if the discount was good enough...go out and get a nice Harley grille and aftermarket hood. Bolt-on parts are nothing..I'd be a little more concerned if the radiator or motor block was damaged, but it looks shallow enough to have cleared it.
11-29-2012, 09:47 PM
#32
Senior Member
Punctuation please!
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Buck183 (11-29-2012)
11-29-2012, 09:58 PM
#33
Easy...loose lips sink ships. You are right, i didn't have any idea this was happening at 1st...but my body shop manager(at the last dealer i worked at) loved to have "dirt" on the owners.
Lets be clear though, he was the reason i quit there. We even brought that manager up on charges with the AG office here, for stealing money from all of us in the shop, this was after i left.
Once he would find out from a salesman simply by asking, "hey did you sell that ___(insert name of any car here), you tell them it was wrecked?"
Whatever the answer was, the next day at lunch, he would just tell us. He loved to gossip.
Be proud (you obviously are), that this doesn't happen at your dealership. But it does happen, shady crap goes on all the time, and people talk. Just because it doesn't happen at your place, doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all.
11-29-2012, 10:10 PM
#34
Easy...loose lips sink ships. You are right, i didn't have any idea this was happening at 1st...but my body shop manager(at the last dealer i worked at) loved to have "dirt" on the owners.
Lets be clear though, he was the reason i quit there. We even brought that manager up on charges with the AG office here, for stealing money from all of us in the shop, this was after i left.
Once he would find out from a salesman simply by asking, "hey did you sell that ___(insert name of any car here), you tell them it was wrecked?"
Whatever the answer was, the next day at lunch, he would just tell us. He loved to gossip.
Be proud (you obviously are), that this doesn't happen at your dealership. But it does happen, shady crap goes on all the time, and people talk. Just because it doesn't happen at your place, doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all.
Lets be clear though, he was the reason i quit there. We even brought that manager up on charges with the AG office here, for stealing money from all of us in the shop, this was after i left.
Once he would find out from a salesman simply by asking, "hey did you sell that ___(insert name of any car here), you tell them it was wrecked?"
Whatever the answer was, the next day at lunch, he would just tell us. He loved to gossip.
Be proud (you obviously are), that this doesn't happen at your dealership. But it does happen, shady crap goes on all the time, and people talk. Just because it doesn't happen at your place, doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all.
Yeah I know it happens. I would just like to think it happens less often then it happens. I do think most people who work in the business are good people; unfortunately, its the bad apples that give us all a bad name. I think it was good your manager took notice although probably didn't go about it the right way. I commend you for leaving a bad store-I did at the Nissan store also. And to the people who said you would buy that-I am pretty sure the dealers would sell it if you wanted it like that after you signed a notice. After the get the insurance you could buy it reallll cheap. Happens in central Texas after hail storms-cars get busted up, get insurance money enabling them to sell it real cheap, and people could get amazing deals on the cars. Well until the tried to trade the cars in.
11-29-2012, 10:50 PM
#36
wait. what?
You guys seriously think I dealer is going to fix these trucks, not disclose it to the customers, and sell them as brand new truck? Seriously get real. First, you HAVE to disclose any lot damage on a new car-anytime repaint, fix a dent, etc no matter how small-Ford (and all other automakers) require that a sticker be put on the car disclosing that repairs were done and done to factory specs. Second, do you really have any idea of the law suit that can come from not disclosing it and they get in an accident or something down the road and air bags dont deploy or a tire falls off or engine issues, etc. Not worth a couple hundred profit and 2 car sales. Third, as bad as that is-which is does look like transport damage like a ramp fell on them, the dealer will notify Ford they refuse the trucks and it will go against insurance for the carriers. It was most likely on the lot waiting for adjustors to come and document the damage. Had this happen at BMW when they went to open carriers and all damage the cars had-we refused several cars because of the damage. Fourth, are there some dealers who may try to do this-of course but I can say it would be FAR AND FEW BETWEEN STUPID ENOUGH TO. Finally, I dont get why people say "stealership" and dumb crap like that. Have you ever worked for a dealer? I have and do and take extreme pride in taking care of the customers and managing my department. I have worked from Ford to BMW to Honda to Dodge to Nissan and at every store except BMW is was rare for the dealer to make more than $500 profit per transaction-VERY RARE!!! There are a few members on here who have asked for prices on F-150s and those prices are guarantee were competitive and EXTREMELY marginal profit if any. So, something you are going to keep for 3-10 years you call the dealer the theif when you pay them less profit than most families pay in profit per month to their local grocery store? But I am DAMN sure you are right at the dealership pouting and pissed off if something goes wrong with your car, and wonder why the salesman doesnt return your call with said issue when he remembers you busted his ***** for 4 hours-he made $100 on the deal and now is going to have to listen to you complain about your truck when the salesman has 0% to do with your trucks problem. Just a little devils advocate here as I am tired of the non-stop bashing the auto industry when most people have no idea how its ran-they were told or remember in the 60-90s when it was bad. However, that is not the case for the most part. MOST ALL DEALERS AND SALESMAN ARE GOOD PEOPLE!!! Like all professions there are some bad apples; however, in todays market and with todays competition those dealers and salespeople usually dont have long careers. Not going to get in a debate but try going in to buy your next vehicle with a nice and happy attitude and see how much better deal and more enjoyable experience you will have both then and after the sell!!! And if you dont like how you are treated-thats the great thing with Ford and most all makes-they are in every town so try a different one till you find one that you like. Although, I am positive with some no matter how great the experience, how great the deal, how much the salespeople bent over backward to help, and how much time they spent-they will still be stealerships and crooks because of a bad deal 29452394793 years ago when you got taken advantage of.
HAHA you can attack my character all you want as you dont know anything about me or how I manage my department (but it must be good as I get recruited to work at other stores causing me to "work for that many dealerships.") Second, what facts and real numbers are you referring to as you "deal with service and sales all day every day." I would say "I deal" is great attitude to have there towards customers as they are the driving factor of business. Third, since you are so versed in the auto industry-what does it cost in one single day of over head to run a dealerships from floor plans, techs, salespeople, office people, porters, electricity, marketing, etc???? I would love to hear your answer to that as dealers are so overpriced as you say. Fourth, you say a dealer would go out of business if it made $500 or less profit per sales transaction? Really? Ok lets see the most profitable areas of a dealership are service, finance, sales, and then parts. Why-because as people want dealers to make less and less profit on the sell which drives the dealership they make their money in other places-ie service. Is service overpriced-I would be the first to admit that but as sells profits continue to decrease I guarantee and mark my words service will just keep increasing to off set it. If dealerships are SOOO overpriced why do a lot go out of business? Are some profitable-very profitable but those are usually stores that have been around for a long time and take care of their customers. And to the painter-that is messed up that the dealership is selling the cars without disclosure. Although I am a little curious how you would even know this? Our body shop has nothing to do with the sales side. If they were to paint a truck and then sales sold it as new the painters would have 0 idea that is what happened. Not bashing you or your character-just curious how you would even know this? And again-not going to get into a debate on this cause there are a lot of industries I can bash like the oil industry, politicians, walmart, lobbyists, some policepeople (not all), etc but I dont because most professions have professionals and a few who give them all a bad name. Have a great night everyone-time for me to go home and leave my poorly managed department.
^ and that right there was called a line break, you should give it a try some time. I read 3 lines of your first post and felt like I was going to throw up.
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09_XLT (11-30-2012)
11-29-2012, 10:58 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by DavidKR
quoted for the lulz
^ and that right there was called a line break, you should give it a try some time. I read 3 lines of your first post and felt like I was going to throw up.
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Vancouverite (11-30-2012)
11-29-2012, 11:55 PM
#40
Senior Member
You guys seriously think I dealer is going to fix these trucks, not disclose it to the customers, and sell them as brand new truck? Seriously get real. First, you HAVE to disclose any lot damage on a new car-anytime repaint, fix a dent, etc no matter how small-Ford (and all other automakers) require that a sticker be put on the car disclosing that repairs were done and done to factory specs. Second, do you really have any idea of the law suit that can come from not disclosing it and they get in an accident or something down the road and air bags dont deploy or a tire falls off or engine issues, etc. Not worth a couple hundred profit and 2 car sales. Third, as bad as that is-which is does look like transport damage like a ramp fell on them, the dealer will notify Ford they refuse the trucks and it will go against insurance for the carriers. It was most likely on the lot waiting for adjustors to come and document the damage. Had this happen at BMW when they went to open carriers and all damage the cars had-we refused several cars because of the damage. Fourth, are there some dealers who may try to do this-of course but I can say it would be FAR AND FEW BETWEEN STUPID ENOUGH TO. Finally, I dont get why people say "stealership" and dumb crap like that. Have you ever worked for a dealer? I have and do and take extreme pride in taking care of the customers and managing my department. I have worked from Ford to BMW to Honda to Dodge to Nissan and at every store except BMW is was rare for the dealer to make more than $500 profit per transaction-VERY RARE!!! There are a few members on here who have asked for prices on F-150s and those prices are guarantee were competitive and EXTREMELY marginal profit if any. So, something you are going to keep for 3-10 years you call the dealer the theif when you pay them less profit than most families pay in profit per month to their local grocery store? But I am DAMN sure you are right at the dealership pouting and pissed off if something goes wrong with your car, and wonder why the salesman doesnt return your call with said issue when he remembers you busted his ***** for 4 hours-he made $100 on the deal and now is going to have to listen to you complain about your truck when the salesman has 0% to do with your trucks problem. Just a little devils advocate here as I am tired of the non-stop bashing the auto industry when most people have no idea how its ran-they were told or remember in the 60-90s when it was bad. However, that is not the case for the most part. MOST ALL DEALERS AND SALESMAN ARE GOOD PEOPLE!!! Like all professions there are some bad apples; however, in todays market and with todays competition those dealers and salespeople usually dont have long careers. Not going to get in a debate but try going in to buy your next vehicle with a nice and happy attitude and see how much better deal and more enjoyable experience you will have both then and after the sell!!! And if you dont like how you are treated-thats the great thing with Ford and most all makes-they are in every town so try a different one till you find one that you like. Although, I am positive with some no matter how great the experience, how great the deal, how much the salespeople bent over backward to help, and how much time they spent-they will still be stealerships and crooks because of a bad deal 29452394793 years ago when you got taken advantage of.
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