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#181
<b>F150 Forum</b>
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The F1B Series adds top and lower mounts anodized in black, and then the powder coating of the springs. The cost is $89.99 and is found in a drop down option on the website: http://www.f150lifts.com/F150Liftsco...-13_p_126.html
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mikep10175 (04-03-2014)
#182
I'm not trying to flame or spam your thread. Your company seems to be doing some great work. With full disclaimer I am running Fox 2.5 coil overs. My question for the F150 lift owner is why did you choose to build your platform around the bilstein 5100. If you google 5100 snapping, there are literally hundreds of threads from numerous forums of the bottom weld snapping. Not to mention the snap ring. Plus its not rebuildable per se. You are kicking it up a notch with the poweder coating, so why not have somebody like sway a way build your shock bodies and rebrand them for you. Again, it just seems like the bilsteins cant really hold up to offloading and for 300 more you can buy Icon, Fox, Camburg(sway a way) etc.
#183
Well I was comparing it to what it looked like before the coilover kit and not that big a difference (wish I did a before & after). The ride is great and sure there will be added pressure on the ball joint but I am not too worried about a ~$50 part. Will replace when needed
Hey Alex, Do you know if there are any aftermarket products with longer ball joint with longer pin/stem to replace stock? Similar to the one shown with the Icon UCA? Could be another potential product and I want 30%
Not a bad idea but expensive coilover kits do not sell. People will simply buy a full lift kit instead. F150lifts offers a solid coilover kit at the right price and for trucks that will most likely not see extreme 4x4'ing (new F150s). For a rock crawler,/heavy 4x4'ing yes I would go with Fox, Icon, etc... but for 80% of F150 owners the Bilsteins are fine (light to moderate 4x4'ing).
Hell, 75% of trucks I see with Fox shocks rarely 4x4. I know, ironic!
I will take pic of truck when I make it up to the family property this weekend. The ride of the F150lifts kit is really good and even those riding in the truck mention how smooth it is on the street.
Hey Alex, Do you know if there are any aftermarket products with longer ball joint with longer pin/stem to replace stock? Similar to the one shown with the Icon UCA? Could be another potential product and I want 30%
I'm not trying to flame or spam your thread. Your company seems to be doing some great work. With full disclaimer I am running Fox 2.5 coil overs. My question for the F150 lift owner is why did you choose to build your platform around the bilstein 5100. If you google 5100 snapping, there are literally hundreds of threads from numerous forums of the bottom weld snapping. Not to mention the snap ring. Plus its not rebuildable per se. You are kicking it up a notch with the poweder coating, so why not have somebody like sway a way build your shock bodies and rebrand them for you. Again, it just seems like the bilsteins cant really hold up to offloading and for 300 more you can buy Icon, Fox, Camburg(sway a way) etc.
Hell, 75% of trucks I see with Fox shocks rarely 4x4. I know, ironic!
I will take pic of truck when I make it up to the family property this weekend. The ride of the F150lifts kit is really good and even those riding in the truck mention how smooth it is on the street.
Last edited by Lord-of-Ford; 04-03-2014 at 11:53 AM.
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HaloLifts (04-03-2014)
#184
<b>F150 Forum</b>
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^ Lord pretty much hit it precisely. The F150Lifts Adjustable Bilstein equipped Coilover is targeted at a specific market, the masses! Our sister company Toytec Lifts has literally sold 1000's and 1000's of this similar setup to their Tundra truck owners, with huge success. So when engineering for the F150...why change the formula that is already proven. For the F150 owner that wants light off roading or mostly street and good looks and ride, it is a fabulous set up. The big weld joint issue. We met with Bilstein, they know what kind of pressures it takes to break that weld. In their words: If you break the weld you are exceeding what the shock is designed for. Plain and simple.
Spilling the Beans: You asked so.....I guess I will tell ya....F150Lifts is in development of our own adjustable coilover "shock". We love the Bilstein set up and will always, always have it in our line up, but as we grow, we will go into markets we think need filling. Our new BOSS Series Coilover is still in testing and will fit into an area of more aggressive than the Bilstien adjustable coilover, but not at the cost/performance level of the fabulous Icon coilover. It will also be rebuildable, more travel, beefier, very cool. The BOSS Series will also help us and our customers when Bilstein is back ordered and there is trouble getting the precious 24-187497 shock. We are also in the process of adding to our line up and will be carrying FOX coilovers, and also the Rancho Quicklift.
We want to get you the set up the way YOU want. In order to do this we have to carry all sorts of options and we are positioning to do this. Customer Service. It has been our goal and policy to take Customer Service to the next level. Too many companies suck at this and We intend never to let that happen. Hopefully you guys have all had a great experience with us and we will try our best as we move forward and grow. Thanks again to everyone for the great support.
Alex
Spilling the Beans: You asked so.....I guess I will tell ya....F150Lifts is in development of our own adjustable coilover "shock". We love the Bilstein set up and will always, always have it in our line up, but as we grow, we will go into markets we think need filling. Our new BOSS Series Coilover is still in testing and will fit into an area of more aggressive than the Bilstien adjustable coilover, but not at the cost/performance level of the fabulous Icon coilover. It will also be rebuildable, more travel, beefier, very cool. The BOSS Series will also help us and our customers when Bilstein is back ordered and there is trouble getting the precious 24-187497 shock. We are also in the process of adding to our line up and will be carrying FOX coilovers, and also the Rancho Quicklift.
We want to get you the set up the way YOU want. In order to do this we have to carry all sorts of options and we are positioning to do this. Customer Service. It has been our goal and policy to take Customer Service to the next level. Too many companies suck at this and We intend never to let that happen. Hopefully you guys have all had a great experience with us and we will try our best as we move forward and grow. Thanks again to everyone for the great support.
Alex
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#185
<b>F150 Forum</b>
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Not really sure. I think if you were to add a longer ball joint to the wimpy stock UCA you may end up causing stress and break it. We all here love the Icon UCA's, they really are nice. We are trying to stock the Camburgs also. What is nice about the Icons, is they will work with the Ford stock 20" wheels !
#186
^ Lord pretty much hit it precisely. The F150Lifts Adjustable Bilstein equipped Coilover is targeted at a specific market, the masses! Our sister company Toytec Lifts has literally sold 1000's and 1000's of this similar setup to their Tundra truck owners, with huge success. So when engineering for the F150...why change the formula that is already proven. For the F150 owner that wants light off roading or mostly street and good looks and ride, it is a fabulous set up. The big weld joint issue. We met with Bilstein, they know what kind of pressures it takes to break that weld. In their words: If you break the weld you are exceeding what the shock is designed for. Plain and simple.
You asked so.....I guess I will tell ya....F150Lifts is in development of our own adjustable coilover "shock". We love the Bilstein set up and will always, always have it in our line up, but as we grow, we will go into markets we think need filling. Our new BOSS Series Coilover is still in testing and will fit into an area of more aggressive than the Bilstien adjustable coilover, but not at the cost or level of the fabulous Icon coilover. It will also be rebuildable, more travel, beefier, very cool. We are also in the process of adding to our line up and will be carrying FOX coilovers, and also the Rancho Quicklift.
We want to get you the set up the way YOU want. In order to do that we have to carry all sorts of options and we will do this. Customer Service. It has been our goal and policy to take Customer Service to the next level. Too many companies suck at this and We intend never to let that happen. Hopefully you guys have all had a great experience with us and we will try our best as we move forward and grow. Thanks again to everyone for the great support.
Alex
You asked so.....I guess I will tell ya....F150Lifts is in development of our own adjustable coilover "shock". We love the Bilstein set up and will always, always have it in our line up, but as we grow, we will go into markets we think need filling. Our new BOSS Series Coilover is still in testing and will fit into an area of more aggressive than the Bilstien adjustable coilover, but not at the cost or level of the fabulous Icon coilover. It will also be rebuildable, more travel, beefier, very cool. We are also in the process of adding to our line up and will be carrying FOX coilovers, and also the Rancho Quicklift.
We want to get you the set up the way YOU want. In order to do that we have to carry all sorts of options and we will do this. Customer Service. It has been our goal and policy to take Customer Service to the next level. Too many companies suck at this and We intend never to let that happen. Hopefully you guys have all had a great experience with us and we will try our best as we move forward and grow. Thanks again to everyone for the great support.
Alex
This past weekend I was driving farm roads with my fox setup. By all accounts it should be "mild" however, recent rains created a very narrow, like 12" wide washout that was very deep. I hit that rut sliding downhill at a speed that should have broken something. I compressed and rebounded so smoothly that my 4 passengers were shocked. Myself included. It was not intentional but they held up great.
In any event I can't wait to see what else you are cooking up. On a side note I have the fox 2.0 rears. However, I've been eyeing up the Icon 2.5 remotes. How would progressive fronts react with the digressive setup for the rears. I have a set off Alcan progressive leafs with 13 leafs which nets me about 3" over stock once I pulled the rear block.
#187
<b>F150 Forum</b>
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Thanks for you kind words! Shoot Icon a quick email, I am sure they can answer you better than I can.
Bilsteins position is Bilsteins position. We think it is a great shock for what it is designed to do.
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Bilsteins position is Bilsteins position. We think it is a great shock for what it is designed to do.
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Last edited by HaloLifts; 04-03-2014 at 01:49 PM.
#188
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thanks for your honest answers. I can tell by your posts you are all about customer service which is rare these days. I think its great you are testing your own brand. I am still not buying the bilstein argument with the weld for one reason. To say you are exceeding what it was designed for is putting the onus on the driver to know what exactly is the breaking point is. Not to mention trying to define mild offroading from offroading. This past weekend I was driving farm roads with my fox setup. By all accounts it should be "mild" however, recent rains created a very narrow, like 12" wide washout that was very deep. I hit that rut sliding downhill at a speed that should have broken something. I compressed and rebounded so smoothly that my 4 passengers were shocked. Myself included. It was not intentional but they held up great. In any event I can't wait to see what else you are cooking up. On a side note I have the fox 2.0 rears. However, I've been eyeing up the Icon 2.5 remotes. How would progressive fronts react with the digressive setup for the rears. I have a set off Alcan progressive leafs with 13 leafs which nets me about 3" over stock once I pulled the rear block.
That starts with the truck, who buys a new F150 to go hardcore offroading?
I knew I would never get more offroad than some fire roads as I have a Jeep for true offroad. So this is why I went bilstein over puck and more expensive coil over set ups.
I too think the weld breakage is owners over exceeding the shock. You can't expect to get high level of offroad performance from $300 shocks, not going to happen and people should know better.
Look at all the trucks that have breakage ( I haven't seen all but have seen many when doing my research) and you will see a common theme, they are for the most part have beat looking undercarriage and have bigger tires. Complete assumption but they probably wanted a badass truck but didn't want to dump money into it to achieve it. So they go the cheap route and expect it's performance to be that of higher dollar systems.
I think this is a great niche product and fills a void nicely. I wish they had been out when I got mine done.
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HaloLifts (04-03-2014)
#189
Not really sure. I think if you were to add a longer ball joint to the wimpy stock UCA you may end up causing stress and break it. We all here love the Icon UCA's, they really are nice. We are trying to stock the Camburgs also. What is nice about the Icons, is they will work with the Ford stock 20" wheels !
Also I will hit you up when I get my new truck a few years from now. If the whole Aluminum things goes well of course and I am fairly confident it will! I just wish I cold transfer this kit over but no can do.
Last edited by Lord-of-Ford; 04-03-2014 at 02:58 PM.
#190
<b>F150 Forum</b>
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But if you keep good care of your kit, you can unbolt it put your stock coilovers back on, trade your truck at max "stock" value....and be able to sell that kit....to help buy the new kit!