EcoBoost - Cold Engine Performance Problems
12-15-2013, 02:06 PM
#11
It's a double edged sword. Ford tunes these things to be very quiet, so when you throw a tune at it and make it actually work, you hear noises that you have never heard before , I would get with the tuner and have him look at shift points, etc. Do you have a way of tracking boost?
Dealers do not find tunes unless they are looking for it. In most. Cases, they are not looking or don't care if you run a tune! At least any that I have dealt with!
Always let it get up to operating temp before asking it to work. Especially the transmission, which takes a long time to warm up. You are asking for trouble by flogging on any cold engine!
Merry Christmas!
Dealers do not find tunes unless they are looking for it. In most. Cases, they are not looking or don't care if you run a tune! At least any that I have dealt with!
Always let it get up to operating temp before asking it to work. Especially the transmission, which takes a long time to warm up. You are asking for trouble by flogging on any cold engine!
Merry Christmas!
I can only speak to my experience, the first time to dealer about a hesitation they took computer and me and mech took a ride. He booted it up and I watched him, we sat idling before we ever got on the road. He asked me if I had modified the truck any, I said no, he showed me on the computer and he said your right. I asked him why and he said these are the first things they look at before they even try to diagnose any issue. Today so many mods are done to these hi tech engines with such small tolerances that he said these tunes do more damage then there worth.
12-15-2013, 03:06 PM
#12
Senior Member
I can only speak to my experience, the first time to dealer about a hesitation they took computer and me and mech took a ride. He booted it up and I watched him, we sat idling before we ever got on the road. He asked me if I had modified the truck any, I said no, he showed me on the computer and he said your right. I asked him why and he said these are the first things they look at before they even try to diagnose any issue. Today so many mods are done to these hi tech engines with such small tolerances that he said these tunes do more damage then there worth.
Your last sentence is pure ignorance, but you are certainly entitled to it, it matters not to me. If yours is working to your satisfaction then there is no need for you to share your opinion on subjects where you have no expierance.
12-15-2013, 05:27 PM
#13
And there are plenty of people that have had work done on vehicles that have/had been tuned, and have yet to hear of one denied warranty claim? Not saying it doesn't happen, just don't hear about it. Just the fear of a denied claim from people such as yourself. Each person needs to make choices best suited for their situation. If the dealer can cure a problem to the owners satisfaction, then it is all good! Unfortunately more often than not, we have to turn to the after-market for a cure.
Your last sentence is pure ignorance, but you are certainly entitled to it, it matters not to me. If yours is working to your satisfaction then there is no need for you to share your opinion on subjects where you have no expierance.
Your last sentence is pure ignorance, but you are certainly entitled to it, it matters not to me. If yours is working to your satisfaction then there is no need for you to share your opinion on subjects where you have no expierance.
u know dip****s like u have no place. The op directed his post to his tune. I shared what was said to me by the mechanic. if you don't like it,, don't post. my ignorance, I don't think so, its people like u who don't like to hear reality. Just move on..
12-15-2013, 06:07 PM
#14
I can only speak to my experience, the first time to dealer about a hesitation they took computer and me and mech took a ride. He booted it up and I watched him, we sat idling before we ever got on the road. He asked me if I had modified the truck any, I said no, he showed me on the computer and he said your right. I asked him why and he said these are the first things they look at before they even try to diagnose any issue. Today so many mods are done to these hi tech engines with such small tolerances that he said these tunes do more damage then there worth.
12-15-2013, 06:16 PM
#15
From my experience, I have a friend who is a service tech/mechanic at Ford, I clearly asked him if Ford could see if I have a tune on it and he said there is no way to tell. More than likely that mechanic was just bullish!tting with you just for you to admit that you modified it. I will modify the **** out of mine, tune is worth it for me.
12-15-2013, 07:30 PM
#16
Senior Member
12-15-2013, 07:34 PM
#17
Senior Member
you are probably right, I wasn't there for any performance issues other than a misfire/shudder in 6th gear. I wasn't putting down the guys who do tunes just the mechanic was looking for one out the gate.. my post was in response to the question of can they tell. Didn't need the response from leftplate, I referred to my experience, didn't say it was true or false just what the mechanic was telling me. I am not even sure there mechanics anymore, seems to me there always using the computer to tell them whats wrong.
12-15-2013, 08:05 PM
#19
Relax.......Merry Christmas!
12-15-2013, 08:26 PM
#20
Senior Member
The tune is the first thing they will look for. There laptop will identify if the CPU has been altered. It has a memory and don't be surprised if they blame it on your tune. My EB doesn't make the noise you have. I let my truck warm up for at least until the thermostat opens up and idles down to 500rpms. I don't open it up after that mainly city at 40-50 mph. Let us know if you issue has been identified. Good luck!
). Otherwise, they don't care. They're not on a witch hunt for tuned vehicles. As mentioned all-too often on this forum, people take their trucks in and the tech can't "repeat the occurrence" and thus just sends the customer on their way.FYI - HyperTech is CARB (California Air Resources Board) compliant and legal, so Ford or anyone else can't randomly blame things on a tune. The only reason a tune should be removed for servicing, is that the diagnostic equipment at the dealer will not be able to recognize the tuned parameters and won't know what to do and will abort the attempted implementation of any necessary TSBs or updates. Nothing more.
And FYI/BTW, an engine will warm up faster under a load (while driving), actually contributing to LESS long-term damage to the internal components. But you have to stay out of the throttle. (hard to do, I know....
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Last edited by STingray1300; 12-15-2013 at 08:44 PM.