ecoboost or 5L
03-18-2014, 09:44 PM
#71
O please, ReefDonkey...sorry Im not your hero RDKev you'll have to excuse me so you can get back to spanking your donkey to him.
Nothing against the 5.0 boys an F150 is an awesome piece of machinery either way. I just never understood why they put the 5.0 in the truck in the first place except for the fact to save money on developing a real truck V8 by using a car powerplant.
Nothing against the 5.0 boys an F150 is an awesome piece of machinery either way. I just never understood why they put the 5.0 in the truck in the first place except for the fact to save money on developing a real truck V8 by using a car powerplant.
Really wish I could have a 5.4 in my F150, now that's a motor designed for trucks! Lol
03-18-2014, 09:51 PM
#72
Senior Member
03-18-2014, 09:52 PM
#73
Inebriated 4 ur safety
I would have to say no they are not the same in MPGs when comparing like for like capabilities. Sorry, but it is the truth. Comparing equal gear ratios is not comparing these trucks equally because their capabilities are different with each having the same gear ratio. Who shops for trucks based on gear ratios? Most people do their truck shopping based on the capabilities of each truck configuration. A 3.73 Ecoboost is more capable than a 3.73 5.0L with a tow rating of over 1,800lbs more with the Ecoboost. The same goes with how a 3.55 Ecoboost is more capable than a 3.55 5.0L with the Ecoboost being able to tow 1,800lbs more there as well. So, as I said earlier, you would have to down gear the Ecoboost so the 5.0L can be as capable. In those terms a 3.73 5.0L is as capable as a 3.31 Ecoboost with both having the same tow rating. This gear reduction while still being rated to perform the same tasks gives the Ecoboost a much greater mpg advantage than most think. It is because people can't get it through their head that an equally geared Ecoboost and 5.0L are NOT the same and is like comparing an equally geared 6.2L and 5.0L. Both have different ratings and capabilities.
The differences between these two are more apparent in normal part throttle riving than unloaded WOT throttle 0-60 sprints. The Ecoboost is a more of a low end powered engine to where the 5.0L is more powerful on the higher end of it's rpms. One has a lot of power in the rpms you normally drive in (1,500-3,000rpm) while the other one doesn't have as much in those rpms and has to rev to higher to get closer (but never match it). This makes for a very distinct driving experience between the two especially with a trailer behind you. OP, whoever tries to tell you they are the same is pissing on your leg while trying to tell you it's raining. Like I said before, drive them both for as long as you can to get a good feel for them. The Ecoboost is not for everyone just as the 5.0L isn't either because what everyone looks for out of an engine is different.
The differences between these two are more apparent in normal part throttle riving than unloaded WOT throttle 0-60 sprints. The Ecoboost is a more of a low end powered engine to where the 5.0L is more powerful on the higher end of it's rpms. One has a lot of power in the rpms you normally drive in (1,500-3,000rpm) while the other one doesn't have as much in those rpms and has to rev to higher to get closer (but never match it). This makes for a very distinct driving experience between the two especially with a trailer behind you. OP, whoever tries to tell you they are the same is pissing on your leg while trying to tell you it's raining. Like I said before, drive them both for as long as you can to get a good feel for them. The Ecoboost is not for everyone just as the 5.0L isn't either because what everyone looks for out of an engine is different.
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03-18-2014, 10:08 PM
#74
One Bad MoFoMoCo Owner
I would have to say no they are not the same in MPGs when comparing like for like capabilities. Sorry, but it is the truth. Comparing equal gear ratios is not comparing these trucks equally because their capabilities are different with each having the same gear ratio. Who shops for trucks based on gear ratios? Most people do their truck shopping based on the capabilities of each truck configuration. A 3.73 Ecoboost is more capable than a 3.73 5.0L with a tow rating of over 1,800lbs more with the Ecoboost. The same goes with how a 3.55 Ecoboost is more capable than a 3.55 5.0L with the Ecoboost being able to tow 1,800lbs more there as well. So, as I said earlier, you would have to down gear the Ecoboost so the 5.0L can be as capable. In those terms a 3.73 5.0L is as capable as a 3.31 Ecoboost with both having the same tow rating. This gear reduction while still being rated to perform the same tasks gives the Ecoboost a much greater mpg advantage than most think. It is because people can't get it through their head that an equally geared Ecoboost and 5.0L are NOT the same and is like comparing an equally geared 6.2L and 5.0L. Both have different ratings and capabilities.
The differences between these two are more apparent in normal part throttle riving than unloaded WOT throttle 0-60 sprints. The Ecoboost is a more of a low end powered engine to where the 5.0L is more powerful on the higher end of it's rpms. One has a lot of power in the rpms you normally drive in (1,500-3,000rpm) while the other one doesn't have as much in those rpms and has to rev to higher to get closer (but never match it). This makes for a very distinct driving experience between the two especially with a trailer behind you. OP, whoever tries to tell you they are the same is pissing on your leg while trying to tell you it's raining. Like I said before, drive them both for as long as you can to get a good feel for them. The Ecoboost is not for everyone just as the 5.0L isn't either because what everyone looks for out of an engine is different.
The differences between these two are more apparent in normal part throttle riving than unloaded WOT throttle 0-60 sprints. The Ecoboost is a more of a low end powered engine to where the 5.0L is more powerful on the higher end of it's rpms. One has a lot of power in the rpms you normally drive in (1,500-3,000rpm) while the other one doesn't have as much in those rpms and has to rev to higher to get closer (but never match it). This makes for a very distinct driving experience between the two especially with a trailer behind you. OP, whoever tries to tell you they are the same is pissing on your leg while trying to tell you it's raining. Like I said before, drive them both for as long as you can to get a good feel for them. The Ecoboost is not for everyone just as the 5.0L isn't either because what everyone looks for out of an engine is different.
1. The capabilities of the engines are very different than the ratings assigned by Ford. Just because Ford rates them differently, it's only because Ford is a corporation looking to max a profit. Of course it makes sense to require an upgrade of the Maxtow to require the more expensive, higher profit margin Eco engine.
That said, I have no doubt that both engines are capable of slinging around close to 12,000 lbs.
The 5.0 suits the way I drive and tow just fine.
And the 5.4 will not tow better than the 5.0. Your just smoking some kind of weird ganga from the south side or something.
2. The OP said he won't be towing anything anyway, so your entire diatribe on towing abilities is for not, except to make you feel better or superior for choosing the Eco. Glad you like your engine. Don't be a jerk about it.
Last edited by sullyman; 03-18-2014 at 10:10 PM.
03-18-2014, 10:11 PM
#76
Two things Al. 1. The capabilities are distant than the ratings. Just because Ford rates them differently, it's only because Ford is a corporation looking to max a profit. Of course it makes sense to require an upgrade of the Maxtow to require the more expensive, higher profit margin Eco engine. That said, I have no doubt that both engines are capable of slinging around close to 12,000 lbs. The 5.0 suits the way I drive and tow just fine. And the 5.4 will not tow better than the 5.0. Your just smoking some kind of weird ganga from the south side or something. 2. The OP said he won't be towing anything anyway, so your entire diatribe on touring abilities is for not, except to make you feel better or superior for choosing the Eco. Glad you like your engine. Don't be a jerk about it.
03-18-2014, 10:15 PM
#78
I would have to say no they are not the same in MPGs when comparing like for like capabilities. Sorry, but it is the truth. Comparing equal gear ratios is not comparing these trucks equally because their capabilities are different with each having the same gear ratio. Who shops for trucks based on gear ratios? Most people do their truck shopping based on the capabilities of each truck configuration. A 3.73 Ecoboost is more capable than a 3.73 5.0L with a tow rating of over 1,800lbs more with the Ecoboost. The same goes with how a 3.55 Ecoboost is more capable than a 3.55 5.0L with the Ecoboost being able to tow 1,800lbs more there as well. So, as I said earlier, you would have to down gear the Ecoboost so the 5.0L can be as capable. In those terms a 3.73 5.0L is as capable as a 3.31 Ecoboost with both having the same tow rating. This gear reduction while still being rated to perform the same tasks gives the Ecoboost a much greater mpg advantage than most think. It is because people can't get it through their head that an equally geared Ecoboost and 5.0L are NOT the same and is like comparing an equally geared 6.2L and 5.0L. Both have different ratings and capabilities. The differences between these two are more apparent in normal part throttle riving than unloaded WOT throttle 0-60 sprints. The Ecoboost is a more of a low end powered engine to where the 5.0L is more powerful on the higher end of it's rpms. One has a lot of power in the rpms you normally drive in (1,500-3,000rpm) while the other one doesn't have as much in those rpms and has to rev to higher to get closer (but never match it). This makes for a very distinct driving experience between the two especially with a trailer behind you. OP, whoever tries to tell you they are the same is pissing on your leg while trying to tell you it's raining. Like I said before, drive them both for as long as you can to get a good feel for them. The Ecoboost is not for everyone just as the 5.0L isn't either because what everyone looks for out of an engine is different.
03-18-2014, 10:21 PM
#79
If I had a dollar for every useless post on this thread, I could go buy a Superduty and leave this place.
I think the OP has been given enough info to make a logical, educated decision on what engine will power his truck. No more need to compare our dicks here.
I think the OP has been given enough info to make a logical, educated decision on what engine will power his truck. No more need to compare our dicks here.
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