decisions, decisions...Tundra or F150
05-15-2013, 03:03 PM
#61
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05-15-2013, 03:24 PM
#63
Senior Member
Driving dynamics between the two are night and day. The Tundra drives every bit as big as it looks while the F-150 feels a lot smaller and easier to handle IMO. It feels much more planted in the corners then the Tundra.
05-15-2013, 03:34 PM
#64
Senior Member
There really isn't much of a comparison of the two. Now do I have ford bias yes but I also work for my money and like to get the most out of it and that surely would not be the tundra. If it wasn't the ford it would be the dodge again IMO the only real competitor for ford rt now. You can even keep the slight interior improvement of the tundra. Toyota hit the nail on the head with the Tacoma as a solid truck for years in its class but not so much with the tundra. Sort of how GM is with their trucks. Many die hard GM guys have left their camp because they have fallen behind. I like how the Alaska rancher said they have tried all and have a F series in there fleet.
05-15-2013, 06:04 PM
#65
Senior Member
While perusing the Ford and Tundra forums this is what I saw. It confused me a little to read "I love my ford even though it's been at the dealer having these things done..." Now, I am not sure if the Tundras are built like the Tacoma I had, but in the six years that I had it I brought it back to the dealer to stop the clutch from squeaking. It worked fine, just annoyed me.
I've read that the Tundra is more "mass produced" and not of the same quality, but I haven't read near the number of complaints.
I've also gone to non brand based forums like Edmunds, offroad, boat owners sites and have read similar sentiment and experiences.
I've sat and drove both trucks. Maybe I'm not very discerning but they seem very similar to me. The Ford has a better interior. While the backseats don't recline, they are very comfortable. And because I use my truck as a daily driver with minimal towing, I don't need to compare similar engines. I just need the most efficient and reliable engine that can tow when I need.
So the Ford seems to lead.
Here's what kept me from just buying the Ford. With the Tundra I am more confident that I will drive it for years without the having to take it to a mechanic. I'm not sure I can rely on the Ford to do the same.
Now I'm thinking, Ford is the number one (trucks) for a reason, they can't sell such a large number of lemons and stay number 1, but is that a risk I'm willing to take?
I've also gone to non brand based forums like Edmunds, offroad, boat owners sites and have read similar sentiment and experiences.
I've sat and drove both trucks. Maybe I'm not very discerning but they seem very similar to me. The Ford has a better interior. While the backseats don't recline, they are very comfortable. And because I use my truck as a daily driver with minimal towing, I don't need to compare similar engines. I just need the most efficient and reliable engine that can tow when I need.
So the Ford seems to lead.
Here's what kept me from just buying the Ford. With the Tundra I am more confident that I will drive it for years without the having to take it to a mechanic. I'm not sure I can rely on the Ford to do the same.
Now I'm thinking, Ford is the number one (trucks) for a reason, they can't sell such a large number of lemons and stay number 1, but is that a risk I'm willing to take?
Keep in mind, with the sheer numbers of F150s sold you are going to see a greater number of failures, even if the failure rate is the same or less.
That said, I used to be a Toyota fan boy. My parents had great faith in Toyota trucks, and they passed that on to me. I've had quite a few Toyota cars over the years, and dated many girls who drove them. I've also had to fix Toyotas many times over the years. What always surprises me is that a Toyota can fail, have to go in for a major repair, and the person still thinks it's the most reliable thing in the world. This would be my Ex, and the engine failed more catastrophically than I could fix.
My Dads Toyota pickup that's so reliable, is on it's third engine in just over 200,000 miles. It's no longer trusted, but finally.
I owned a Tacoma for 7 years, from 68,000 miles to 150,000 miles. I finally sold my Tacoma when I realized it had been sitting in the yard for more time waiting on parts and the time to install those parts than it had running over the last year. And this was with less than 150,000 miles on it. Hell, it was less reliable than my friends F150 with 220,000 miles on it. I also had a laundry list of squeaks and groans and loose parts that all needed to be fixed, so I just gave up on it really.
So I really don't by the argument that Toyotas will last longer. Personal experience, not just what I read on forums.
This is my first Ford. I expect great things from it.
05-15-2013, 06:21 PM
#66
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As of right now my F150 is only a year old, but there has been no reason to visit the dealer for anything. Everything works as it should.
Keep in mind, with the sheer numbers of F150s sold you are going to see a greater number of failures, even if the failure rate is the same or less.
That said, I used to be a Toyota fan boy. My parents had great faith in Toyota trucks, and they passed that on to me. I've had quite a few Toyota cars over the years, and dated many girls who drove them. I've also had to fix Toyotas many times over the years. What always surprises me is that a Toyota can fail, have to go in for a major repair, and the person still thinks it's the most reliable thing in the world. This would be my Ex, and the engine failed more catastrophically than I could fix.
My Dads Toyota pickup that's so reliable, is on it's third engine in just over 200,000 miles. It's no longer trusted, but finally.
I owned a Tacoma for 7 years, from 68,000 miles to 150,000 miles. I finally sold my Tacoma when I realized it had been sitting in the yard for more time waiting on parts and the time to install those parts than it had running over the last year. And this was with less than 150,000 miles on it. Hell, it was less reliable than my friends F150 with 220,000 miles on it. I also had a laundry list of squeaks and groans and loose parts that all needed to be fixed, so I just gave up on it really.
So I really don't by the argument that Toyotas will last longer. Personal experience, not just what I read on forums.
This is my first Ford. I expect great things from it.
Keep in mind, with the sheer numbers of F150s sold you are going to see a greater number of failures, even if the failure rate is the same or less.
That said, I used to be a Toyota fan boy. My parents had great faith in Toyota trucks, and they passed that on to me. I've had quite a few Toyota cars over the years, and dated many girls who drove them. I've also had to fix Toyotas many times over the years. What always surprises me is that a Toyota can fail, have to go in for a major repair, and the person still thinks it's the most reliable thing in the world. This would be my Ex, and the engine failed more catastrophically than I could fix.
My Dads Toyota pickup that's so reliable, is on it's third engine in just over 200,000 miles. It's no longer trusted, but finally.
I owned a Tacoma for 7 years, from 68,000 miles to 150,000 miles. I finally sold my Tacoma when I realized it had been sitting in the yard for more time waiting on parts and the time to install those parts than it had running over the last year. And this was with less than 150,000 miles on it. Hell, it was less reliable than my friends F150 with 220,000 miles on it. I also had a laundry list of squeaks and groans and loose parts that all needed to be fixed, so I just gave up on it really.
So I really don't by the argument that Toyotas will last longer. Personal experience, not just what I read on forums.
This is my first Ford. I expect great things from it.
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05-15-2013, 11:44 PM
#69
Senior Member
Yeah, it show a sony system with NAV on the FORD website.....Do you have the 4 quadrant screen when its not in nav mode?
05-16-2013, 12:07 AM
#70
Senior Member
Fwiw I've owned three f150's and one tundra.
I believe the 5.7 should be compared to the 5.0 because both are the highest power motors you can get in any trim level and cab configuration. While ford wants us to compare their 6.2 to the Iforce 5.7, ford does not offer the 6.2 in a base rcsb xl truck.
That said, the 5.7 is a very impressive motor, and will run circles around the 5.0. My tundra got into the 13's at the track bone stock. No 5.0 has done that. The 5.7 is a very similar design, but with 50 more CID, for more hp and torque.
The tundra got better fuel mileage than both 5.4 f150's I had before it, but its a solid 5 mpg worse than my ecoboost.
The tundra was very reliable, with the only warranty issue being a bad radio display. My f150 has 2 issues ford won't fix (trans slow to engage reverse and intermittent left side speakers).
I do agree that the f150 has a much smoother ride and nicer interior. The tundra rode like a log truck and the interior was plain.
Honestly, if it weren't for the ecoboost engine, I would probably be driving a 5.7 tundra today.
I believe the 5.7 should be compared to the 5.0 because both are the highest power motors you can get in any trim level and cab configuration. While ford wants us to compare their 6.2 to the Iforce 5.7, ford does not offer the 6.2 in a base rcsb xl truck.
That said, the 5.7 is a very impressive motor, and will run circles around the 5.0. My tundra got into the 13's at the track bone stock. No 5.0 has done that. The 5.7 is a very similar design, but with 50 more CID, for more hp and torque.
The tundra got better fuel mileage than both 5.4 f150's I had before it, but its a solid 5 mpg worse than my ecoboost.
The tundra was very reliable, with the only warranty issue being a bad radio display. My f150 has 2 issues ford won't fix (trans slow to engage reverse and intermittent left side speakers).
I do agree that the f150 has a much smoother ride and nicer interior. The tundra rode like a log truck and the interior was plain.
Honestly, if it weren't for the ecoboost engine, I would probably be driving a 5.7 tundra today.
Last edited by engineermike; 05-16-2013 at 12:15 AM.