Z7What

I was referring to towing not payload but I guess it all needs to be added up.

Ok well the PAYLOAD is a little over. I wouldn't worry one bit about towing it with the 4 people!

With the PAYLOAD at its max couldn't you just back the Honda up on the trailer a little to reduce the weight?

If the payload of the truck is 1090 that sucks. With my family loaded up, luggage packed for vacation along with the tool box, ice chests, & beach stuff in the bed that would be close to 1K if I had to guess. That just seams EXTREMELY low!

And wouldn't payload be calculated buy subtracting the ACTUAL weight of the truck from the GVWR?

Wayne

tomt5078

As Rick said WOW......remember u said he could tow double that which is 10,000 PLUS, 10-15 % would be 1,000 - 1,500 TW, and that alone would be over payload. He shouldn't have a problem towing the Honda, but double is crazy, IMO

I haven't been on this site long, but after hanging out in the tow section the one thing I have learned is payload comes before how much you can tow, once you figured out your payload then you can move forward with how much you can two!!!!!

Ricktwuhk

Payload doesn't need to be calculated. You start with the Payload displayed on the sticker on your door jamb. It includes a 150 pound driver and a full tank of gas and your options (unless you added things like a tonneau cover). Then subtract your driver's excess weight over 150. Then subtract your passengers, and all their luggage that's going in the truck. Your dog(s). You can keep the jumbo Slurpee out of the calculation.

And as far as backing up the towed vehicle on the trailer, yes, it is possible (if the trailer allows it) to move weight backwards on a trailer to reduce tongue weight. BUT, you need to keep enough weight on the tongue to maintain control of the trailer. The recommended amount is 10 - 15% of the trailer weight. So, you can't take a 10,000 pound load and say "hey, I'm 500 pounds over tongue weight because I have 1,000 pounds on the tongue, so let's move the load back and put 500 pounds on the tongue". That would be 5% of the load, and very unsafe.

Spend some time reading the Tow/Haul section of the forum. I have a link in my sig to a good post, but people like KR Kodi, Smokeywren and others constantly post this information, yet people continue to post incorrect information time and time again. The goal is to safely tow, not kill somebody.

Ricktwuhk

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Z7What

As I said above I was referring to towing capacity ONLY and wasn't taking payload into it. Meaning trailer and civic is 5K, he "could" tow 10K. That's why I said double

I understand I was wrong when I said double but as I said I was talking about towing not payload.

You said "Payload doesn't need to be calculated. You start with the Payload displayed on the sticker on your door jamb. It includes a 150 pound driver and a full tank of gas and your options"

Then you said

"Then subtract your driver's excess weight over 150. Then subtract your passengers, and all their luggage that's going in the truck. Your dog(s). You can keep the jumbo Slurpee out of the calculation."

To me that's means calculating. And there is truly no way of knowing unless you weight the truck loaded with what ever your going to have in the truck before hooking up the trailer.

Im sending you a PM as to not clutter this thread more than I have already.

Wayne