Calling All EcoBoost Owners with a problem!
 

I posted this in a another post but thought why not have a place to see where we are all at!

I am puzzled with all of this!! If there is a fix for the 2013 no matter what date it is suppose to be then why are people going back 2, 3 and even 4 times trying to get theirs fixed??? I mean tell me what is the difference in a ecoboost motor since it came out?? If they have corrected it then why don't they call us in and say we are going to apply the fix we engineered for the mid year 13's,... No matter what they did,, if it is an complete intake then put it on.... If there is a difference in the heads,,, then put them on! No matter what they found to correct it,,, just give us some peace and do it!

Why is Ford not ending this problem??? IMO,,,, they don't have a fix for any of the EcoBoosts no matter when they were made.

I know some have reported they haven't had a problem since the got this TSB done,,, but if we go back and read every post on the EcoBoost which is probably over 1000 pages by now,, I am sure we will find many that came back later and said,,,,, Oh Well,,,, At least I thought it was fixed.

Since the conditions may have to be right to get it to happen and since you have had the TSB applied you may have had similar conditions but not exact,,, that to me is what explains the people coming back later saying they thought it was fixed!

I think it is time for a poll!

have you had the problem yes / no
Have you had a TSB done?
did it fix it?
how long has it been fixed?
did you think it was fixed but then it did it again?

If you're going to do a poll, then make sure to include the year as well as what part of the world they are in.

I don't know how to do one,,, but I am sure I could learn... I just think it is time we join together on this issue and I agree the year and area are important. It would be more of a questioner to gather data,,, I think the NTSB said they had 100 complaints which is lean,,, very lean if you ask me... I think they should have a post where we can sigh in so they can get a better count on the issue...

ECOBUST!

Ford should hang their heads in shame over this well intentioned but obvious failure. Turbo tech is nothing new so it should have never gone to this extreme extent of failure.

I agree,,, turbos have been commonly out for at least 30 years and other than the early turbo failing due to bearing design and heat they didn't have running issues. This isn't a new wheel,,, this is old technology..... Heck I put a S/C on my mustang that works perfectly and the motor was never meant to have one on it!! This motor was designed specifically for a turbo setup so what's the problem? I can understand having a unforeseen problem,,, but not being able to fix it??? Not acceptable!

TSB fixed mine. Runs great now not a hiccup in 8 months

Do you mind providing some info as to what year,, where you live and what TSB?

2012 Ecoboost, just turned over 14K miles, not one issue with engine. Then again I live in the desert with no humidity for all these common engine problems so far with condensation. Best of luck to all of you. There will be a fix, not a failure engine. Every new production engine will have its hiccups along the way, just so happens these showed up earlier then later with the Ecoboost which is hurting the hyped up name thus far.

TSB fixed my 2011.

So far. :thumbsup:

The issue is the fix's they are doing are bandaids, the reason there not doing a true fix is $$$. The less they do the more revenue they make. From a company perspective they weigh out loss, it would be cheaper not to repair and deal with any lawsuits that to do a recall.

I forgot to mention the Ecoboost name has been publicly humiliated by some of the sue happy consumers that contacted the media and of course anything bad the media gets their hands on they run with and throw in their two cents making it worse generalizing that all Ecoboost engines are horrible. Half of the owners I read on here haven't had one issue while some have had nothing but problems.

I live in Indiana, 2012 Eco, almost 15k miles, no issues here either.

20k and not a single issue

TSB fixed my 2012. No issues since the new CAC. Heck even pulled my race trailer for 2 hours in the interestate with the cruise on... No issues here.

2011 ECO with 22k, no problems,no fixs, Denver Co...........

2012. No issues whatsoever the the motor. I live in eastern Ontario which gets pretty sticky humidity in the summer months. Tow a travel trailer and it pulls it with ease.

2012 fx4, 6.5 bed.
Rear end clunk-in shop for estimated two weeks (currently there).
Power loss after 13-3-3 for intercooler- big loss...
And other common f150 paint issues on the doors, and tail,light housings areas on bed.
I am getting a rental truck tomorrow on Fords dime from my warranty.

2013 with 7k miles and no issues. Live in iowa but spent two weeks driving all over Louisiana and Florida in rain and very high humidity.

Can someone point me to the TSB that is being referred to?

2013 Screw FX4, July/2013 Build date, just over 1k miles on it.

The only issue I can see so far is that when I put the truck in gear it makes a bang sound every so often. Based on other vehicles sounds like a suspension axle wrap issue when the forward gear is selected.

Well that and the tailgate step rattles like a SOB!!! Anyone figure out a fix for the tailgate step rattle?

I suppose only Ford knows how many complaints have been filed against the F150 Ecoboost. I know it sucks, any issue for that matter, sucks for those dealing with them. I still bet the number of trucks with issues is quite small compared to the number sold. I would hope and expect Ford to address each owner's individual issues, but the "Oh my, the sky is falling" mentality some have with respect to the Ecoboost is unwarranted, IMHO. Just sayin'.... BTW, I live in the south with rain and humidity. I have 7,000 perfect miles to date on my 2013 F150.

mamonti, I think the whole CAC wont surface until these so called Lawsuits get to court and get a determination or verdict. So many of these get strung out for so long Ford will have a 5th generation ecoboost before anything gets done and the few remaining customers will have long sold there trucks and moved on. The issue is simple, water builds up in CAC and has no where to be discharged but into the engine when the driver pushes the pedal to pass/accelerates. The problem is there on ALL Ecoboosts, some just haven't been in the proper conditions to trigger it. It would make good business sense for Ford to find a proper/complete fix and correct all EB's. Do you really think the 15's will sell if the current EB issues aren't resolved.

2011 96k
It stumbled once around the 50k mark after driving in the rain for four hours through Arkansas/ North Mississippi

Yes, the '15's will still sell. And to be honest, if I was in the market, I would have no problem buying an EB (I would have no problem buying another 5.0 either though). I think it takes a very specific set of circumstances to cause the problem and I do not think it is nearly as widespread as some here would have you believe.

That is everyone's choice to by another EB. I am just saying we will see if any action gets taken due to these lawsuits. I for one would not buy another EB if the original issue never gets solved or resolved by Ford. I like the EB motor and it drives effortless and only hope I can drive mine for 100k+ miles w/o any CAC issue but only time will tell.

Yes the 15s will sell....
The intercooler issue (which I've never had) is still there apparently,sure hasn't hurt the EB sales
Because the majority of people are not having issues,most don't hang on Internet forums where venting about truck issues is the norm...
Most people are extremely happy with the EB,at least those that actually have realistic expectations of mpg:)
Every truck made has issues,spend time on GM,Dodge,Toyota forums....
Am I extremely happy with my EB?
No
I've had Some issues and currently my truck is in shop for a drivers side turbo failing....the first time my shop has done the drivers side turbo,tho they have done a few passenger side ones.
My expectations of vehicles has been lowered over the years,simply because every truck I've owned has had issues....and for the price we pay it's upsetting.
All my trucks have been domestic,maybe I'll look hard at Nissan or Toyota if my EB continues to nag me....
I will say my dealer and Ford have been great tho,something others can't say.

Most people do NOT know what an EcoBoost is! Never mind the fact that some have issues.:huh:

BTW-mine is fixed. Start with a tune, aftermarket IC, and top it off with a CAI for good measure!:thumbsup:

Well I agree with most of the posts here and think we are all on the right page.. Does every ecoboost driver have a complaint,,, No.. Does it have the issue,,,,,I think so as mine went 11000 miles before I noticed it and only because I floored it to show my friend the power. Have I floored it before,,, once or twice but this time was in the right conditions. If most EcoBoost don't have the problem then what is different between theirs and our??? Do other trucks have issues,,, yes... nothing is perfect but I have a sync issue, the shudder and the limp mode... The sync is frustrating, the shudder upsets me but the limp mode shuts down the truck and in traffic it is dangerous! It is almost as dangerous as saying ,,, hey every once in a while given the right conditions your brakes go out!! Not here to bash Ford,, I have 3 vehicles and they are all Fords..... Just don't want to end up in the morgue and have my family find out they could fix the problem but decided profits are more important. I had a Nissan that had a problem or two,,,, a Toyota camary with the gas pedal problem.... I got rid of the Nissan because once I had a problem I had to drive an hour to find a Nissan dealer,,,,,,,,, The camary went as soon as they fixed it because when it became public that Toyota ignored the issue and was forced to fix it the camary values plunged. All cars and trucks have issues but when it comes to possible death or injury I think it is something we all should be concerned about. So for you that haven't had the issue great,,,, but remember that it is possible you may come around the side of a big rig at 75 mph and find a Ecoboost doing 30 trying to get off the side of the road!!!

i'm sure by now there are more threads on here about the EB "condensation" issue than there have been actual occurrences of said issue...

I have had it myself, so I know how it feels like, but do we need so many threads about it?...

Shudder issue at 5k miles (9/24/13). Driving in the rain, had to accelerate from on-ramp to merge into flow of traffic. Nearly got rear ended due to limp mode. Tampa, FL.

Florida is NOT the best place to own an Ecoboost. Especially in the summer where it's raining 6 days out of the week.

When I worked at Ford I was also a Powerstroke tech and I've seen them with 300,000+ miles on them with original turbo's still pumping with no problems.

Ford cheaped out on the turbo supplier I think. as for the inter cooler issue, that's just bad design. Never had any moisture issues with the powerstroke systems.


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I recall feeling the same way about the 5.3 with cylinder deactivation I had. Mine had detonation issues, most of them consume excess oil, and many had lifter problems. Mine would run OK on 93 octane, anything less and it pinged constantly when cruising at a steady speed of 65 mph or less. Dealers finally told me it was a nature of the beast kind of thing. But I remember thinking once people get wise, they won't be able to sell them. I went to 4 different dealerships, called customer service, changed the plugs myself, etc. But you still see a lot of them on the road, and the 5.3 is still around with the cylinder deactivation. The ecoboost issue may be the same way. If it happens very few times, it may not bother some people as much as others. The detonation in my GMC didn't bother my wife. Drove me to trade it, though. GM techs heard it pinging away on the drives we took, one said his did the same thing, don't worry about it. But yeah, if I had an EB and it sputtered in the rain once in a while, it would drive me nuts probably. But I see a lot of them on the road also. Many probably haven't experienced the issue, some have and don't worry about it, some have and are driving around pissed. lol I believe the only fix for my 5.3 was new lifters, and GM wasn't about to do that for a problem that a lot of people probably ignore or aren't overly concerned with. It still drove down the road and had decent power. Ford probably feels the same way. They're not going to spend a huge amount of money to correct an issue that only happens under very certain conditions, I don't think. If you take it in for the problem, they may or may not apply a TSB in the form of a deflector or a reflash, but if it drives down the road for them with adequate power, I doubt they do much else to it. I think it's going to be either you live with it, trade it, or fix it with aftermarket options that void the warranty. But this is just my opinion and I hope you get it resolved. I just don't think Ford is going to retrofit every EB f150 made since 2011 with some new part...unless it's real cheap...

BTW, I got the 5.0 because of the reported EB issue. And it knocks a little at idle! lol But, I'm not going to take it to the dealership unless it gets worse. It bothers me, but I know they're not going to stick another block in there. It goes down the road and has decent power. I kind of miss the trucks of a few years ago. Less HP and TQ, but seemed to have less issues as well.

9000km's no issues yet.

2013 Screw FX4 EB, Delivered June 21st built June 11th... no issues and I tow a fifth wheel/boat regularly. It's also rained here in the last two months, no issues. Turbos are fine and of good quality, love the sound of my turbos on cold startup.

2011 here with 29k miles. I have owned it since 14 k miles. No issues with the condensation problem here in Western NY.

I wanted to give it plenty of time before I said anything. I had the CAC done at the beginning of April and drove in the rain many times since and I can honestly say my truck has been 100% better. My truck has been doing this since it had 2000 miles its 2011 almost 30,000 miles on it now. Even with these issues I still love my truck I love the power.

I have 31,000 on my 2011 never a problem with losing power stock inner cooler and all

Had the complete loss of power no cel at 13k miles in nov. on my 12, it's been great since TSB with new CAC and 19k miles later so far!:thumbsup:

Well, I had tsb 13-7-7 performed, after 8 days in the shop. Clunking in the rear is gone. I have also had the tsb's regarding the Cat and CAC performed. I had the CAC changed back in July. Last Saturday night I had another condensation episode. The dealer says no trouble codes were found, go figure. After all the issues I have had I tried trading the truck in. One dealer won't even trade it due to the issues. 2 Ford stores want to give me 2600 less than what I owe. Ford won't buy it back, so I guess it's time to file a suit based on the issues and diminished value, unless the ford reps here are able to help get this resolved.

I "may" have had the moisture stutter issue, it felt like a slight hessitation once after driving through pouring rain for 4 hours, other than that I have had no issues in 7k miles. But I am with you, I came from an 03 Chevy with the 5.3 and pretty much every one of those from the year 2000 till they started the cylinder deactivation crap is a 300K mile motor. I traded mine at just over 200k and the motor ran as good as the day I got it.