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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 09:42 PM
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Not exactly non sense. The BMS charges the battery based on different factors. It keeps it from being overcharged or undercharged which increases battery life and compensates for operation under heavy electrical load. Without the BMS, like you said, the alternator charges at the same rate regardless. With BMS if the battery state of charge is high and electrical load is low the alternator will trickle charge the battery to maintain charge. On a cold, rainy, winter night when you have lights, blower, wipers, and heated seats all turned on the alternator will go to maximum output, higher than standard output traditional systems. Remember the good old days when your lights dimmed and wipers slowed down at every stop sign.
I'm aware how the system works and why and IMHO it's not needed. The alternator will NOT overcharge the battery as the alternator like any other power supply, will only give what the system needs (unless the voltage regulator malfunctions) as determined by the battery charge capacity.
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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 09:54 PM
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Mine died when at the gas station getting gas, no warning. Bigger problem was, no one would give me a jump to get home.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 03:40 AM
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My ‘11 died out of nowhere due to that crappy battery management system Ford released during that year. Ended up going to the dealer and got a new battery for a whopping $350. ****ing crooks.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 04:07 AM
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I use the Costco BMS Battery Management System.
That ^^ $350 battery woulda been $90 at Costco...they have a great warranty!
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 08:23 AM
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I dropped in a new battery last night. Per the post way above, I let it sit over night. Cranked up strong this morning. Everything seems fine.

Side note, I like the "wedge lock" mechanism that tightens the cables onto the posts. Pretty cool. I'd never seen that before.

FWIW, I have an O'Reilleys by my house. I got their middle-of-the-road battery with a 3 year warranty. It was ~$170 after core charge.

Also, I wish these trucks had an electrical gauge on them (voltmeter?). Most Fords I've owned have had those. It was nice in the one Mustang I had (94 GT) because I could tell when things were starting to fail. It only happened a couple times in the 8ish years I had it, but still. Nice to know when you need to get off the freeway rather than getting stuck on it.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 08:52 AM
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The reality is that these trucks want to be driven. And, the reality is that short drives, even 1/2 hour drives, don't charge them back up. So, sitting in the winter for days drains the battery, and then driving it for short periods doesn't charge it, which results in a weak, then dying battery.

RNLComp (who doesn't have cold weather) added a solar charger. I use a Battery Tender. I got tired of the Battery Saver messages, and could see that the battery wouldn't last. I'm 4 1/4 years in on mine, and hope to do as well as I have on other vehicles (8+ years).
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
The reality is that these trucks want to be driven. And, the reality is that short drives, even 1/2 hour drives, don't charge them back up. So, sitting in the winter for days drains the battery, and then driving it for short periods doesn't charge it, which results in a weak, then dying battery.
This is exactly why you should disable the silly sensor on the ground cable. It just makes it worse.

carpetdenim, you can get a voltmeter for under $20 to stick in a 12v power port whenever you like.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by carpetdenim
I dropped in a new battery last night. Per the post way above, I let it sit over night. Cranked up strong this morning. Everything seems fine.

Side note, I like the "wedge lock" mechanism that tightens the cables onto the posts. Pretty cool. I'd never seen that before.

FWIW, I have an O'Reilleys by my house. I got their middle-of-the-road battery with a 3 year warranty. It was ~$170 after core charge.

Also, I wish these trucks had an electrical gauge on them (voltmeter?). Most Fords I've owned have had those. It was nice in the one Mustang I had (94 GT) because I could tell when things were starting to fail. It only happened a couple times in the 8ish years I had it, but still. Nice to know when you need to get off the freeway rather than getting stuck on it.
170 for a battery!
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 11:00 AM
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170 for a battery!
The Optima was $320. And apparently Ford charges $350? /shrug/
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
This is exactly why you should disable the silly sensor on the ground cable. It just makes it worse.

carpetdenim, you can get a voltmeter for under $20 to stick in a 12v power port whenever you like.
Thanks. I'll look into that.
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