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Old May 9, 2014 | 01:14 PM
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my question is, general spring shows 3 different weights for payload increase. Is it safe to assume that each one will give a different height of lift?

http://www.generalspringkc.com/Add_a...012_s/1995.htm
for example would the 1242lb = 2" lift, 998 lb = 1.5" lift, 802 lb = 1" lift ????

or will they all be the same? I'm looking for 1" of lift and the added payload and reduced wheel-hop is just a bonus. Thanks guys.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GUS.975
my question is, general spring shows 3 different weights for payload increase. Is it safe to assume that each one will give a different height of lift?

http://www.generalspringkc.com/Add_a...012_s/1995.htm
for example would the 1242lb = 2" lift, 998 lb = 1.5" lift, 802 lb = 1" lift ????

or will they all be the same? I'm looking for 1" of lift and the added payload and reduced wheel-hop is just a bonus. Thanks guys.
That's a good question. I asked generally how much lift should I expect when I spoke to them on the phone and the response was something to the effect- the springs were designed for payload capacity, not necessarily for lift, but one should expect ~1.5" of lift. There was no mention of increasing lift with the larger capacity springs. Give them a holler, they were very helpful.
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Old May 16, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Just spoke with Jim at General Spring. Great guys there. He said the leafs will vary in height but aren't designed for that purpose, more for added payload. But he said the 800lb one is approx 1", the 1250lb one is 1.5 -2" and the 1000lb one is somewhere in the middle. I ordered the 800lb one and will report back as to my results. With pics too.
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Old May 30, 2014 | 08:30 AM
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Alright guys I put the leaf in last night. Took me and my dad 2.5 hours start to finish. We ended up reusing the original leaf pack clamps. They are wayyy more heavy duty than the provided ones so we just heated em up and bent em straight then back over the leaf once the pack was assembled. Everything went pretty well and fit nicely. I gained about 1.25"-1.5" of lift out of it. Pictures to come.

I think it will settle a bit over the next few weeks. Also thinking about removing the 0.4" spacer at the bottom of the pack. That will net me 0.75-1" of lift which should get me 1" of rake which in my eyes is perfect. Pictures to follow this evening.
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Old May 30, 2014 | 12:36 PM
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Ok guys I got some pics. I still think its a bit high in the rear. What I might do (as I've shown in the last pic) is remove that spacer. It doesn't do anything and would lower me a bit to give me about 1" of rake. Which is what I want. Feel free to criticize or applaud haha. Thanks guys.
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Old May 30, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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Before and after pics.

Measurements were 41" before and 42.5" after. from ground to fender. may settle a bit still. Will re-measure again once I remove spacer too.

The last pic is the reason why I'm doing this mod. squatted pretty good.
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Old May 31, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GUS.975
Before and after pics.

Measurements were 41" before and 42.5" after. from ground to fender. may settle a bit still. Will re-measure again once I remove spacer too.

The last pic is the reason why I'm doing this mod. squatted pretty good.
Looks great. I am one of the oddballs that likes rake. For before and after try measuring from rim to fender. Tire could compress differently before and after work. Again, I think it looks great.
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Old May 31, 2014 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by matiki
Looks great. I am one of the oddballs that likes rake. For before and after try measuring from rim to fender. Tire could compress differently before and after work. Again, I think it looks great.
^ Ditto.
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GUS.975
Alright guys I put the leaf in last night. Took me and my dad 2.5 hours start to finish. We ended up reusing the original leaf pack clamps. They are wayyy more heavy duty than the provided ones so we just heated em up and bent em straight then back over the leaf once the pack was assembled. Everything went pretty well and fit nicely. I gained about 1.25"-1.5" of lift out of it. Pictures to come.

I think it will settle a bit over the next few weeks. Also thinking about removing the 0.4" spacer at the bottom of the pack. That will net me 0.75-1" of lift which should get me 1" of rake which in my eyes is perfect. Pictures to follow this evening.

Looks great Gus, thanks for the update. Things got so busy that I have still not been able to install mine. I would really like to get to it this weekend. A couple questions. Did you remove the entire leaf pack, or remove the 2 bottom springs? If remove whole pack, how did you go about this and how difficult? I really don't want to drop the gas tank and muffler to get the main leaf spring bolts out. Were you able to reuse the factory u-bolts? Lastly, how's the ride?

Originally Posted by GUS.975
Before and after pics.

Measurements were 41" before and 42.5" after. from ground to fender. may settle a bit still. Will re-measure again once I remove spacer too.

The last pic is the reason why I'm doing this mod. squatted pretty good.
Hey, could you load up all that wood again and take a few more pics so we can see how well the new leafs keep your truck from squatting?

Seriously though, I appreciate the posts and any info you can provide to make installation a little easier.
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Driftboater
Looks great Gus, thanks for the update. Things got so busy that I have still not been able to install mine. I would really like to get to it this weekend. A couple questions. Did you remove the entire leaf pack, or remove the 2 bottom springs? If remove whole pack, how did you go about this and how difficult? I really don't want to drop the gas tank and muffler to get the main leaf spring bolts out. Were you able to reuse the factory u-bolts? Lastly, how's the ride?



Hey, could you load up all that wood again and take a few more pics so we can see how well the new leafs keep your truck from squatting?

Seriously though, I appreciate the posts and any info you can provide to make installation a little easier.
All I did was put a jack under the rear axle. lifted the truck up and then set it on jack stands high enough to get the rear wheels to dangle by about 6" when fully sagged out. Important for getting pins in.

1. took rear wheels off.
2. unbolted shock
3. removed u-bolts
4. removed leaf pack pins (needed torch)
5. too whole stack out except for top leaf. (left it bolted up)
6. bent stock leaf stack holders straight up and down in vice.
7. rebuilt stack from bottom up.
8. slid in to place and put pins back thru the top leaf.
9. with the axle low enough out of the way it makes the pins easier to put thru. hence why i dropped it so much lower. then jacked up the axle with the floor jack to meet the leaf stack. buttoned it all up.
10. bent leaf stack holder back around stack. (see pic)
11. wheel back on.



On friday I decided it was too high and decided to pull the one spacer out I was talking about in a previous post. I think it makes it perfect. (see pic)

my rake is about 1" to 1.25" Had 2 dirtbikes and gear in there on the weekend. (800-1000lbs) and she was almost level, still had some rake to her! not bad. Didn't get any pics.

All in all, very happy with it. get the general spring kit. 802lb payload increase and remove the rear spacer shown in pics. combined with my 2" level kit, it looks great. Ride is a bit firmer but not too noticeable. Still rides amazing. Gained lift, reduced any wheelhop, and gained payload. Ain't doing all that with lift blocks!

Will try to get some pics today of the stance. And post. Trying to deal with my accident issues still so the left side is all smashed up (see other thread) Will take pics of right side. lol.

And If I get more wood I'll take a pic. Not reloading it sorry.
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