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Old May 25, 2014 | 01:25 AM
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Hi All,
I have been reading through quite a bit and learning as much. (Thanks to a GREAT forum)
I have read about the engine and tranny having adaptive learning. Since I bought my 2011 5.0 SCAB with 23,000 miles on the clock, would it be to my advantage to disconect the battery and let the truck learn me? or will it learn as I drive it?
The second part of this question is; I just got my SCT 3015 and as I was thinking of the above question was also wondering since I am the second owner, would it benifit if I unhook the battery and then drive it for xxx amount of miles and then run my tuner or does it not matter?
Either way, how long should I unhook the positive cable for to clear the "memory" and I'm sure it will clear ALL my radio and sirus pgms as well, right ?
I hope you all get the jest of my questions as I am fairly new to FI engines with the exception of my scoot, which I am still learning it as I go.

I would like to say Thanks to all those whom have posted on this forum. This is a only place I come to for learning and discovering new ond some not so new tips and tricks as well as mods. I never thought I would continue to personalize my ride as I have gotten older, but I guess its a bug that NEVER goes away. And this new model of Ford Truck just begs to be tinkerd with Cant leave well enough alone.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 03:00 AM
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1. Both, it will learn you faster if you force it to relearn but will adapt over time.

2. No, you should use the special functions of the tuner to clear the KAM (keep alive memory) which forces a relearn.

3. I'm not sure how long. I know on my old vehicles I'd open a door or do something to draw power. I've also heard that after it has sat a while touch the negative terminal to the positive to remove any extra power left. But really, the best way is to just wait and use the KAM reset of the tuner.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 04:15 AM
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1. Both, it will learn you faster if you force it to relearn but will adapt over time.

2. No, you should use the special functions of the tuner to clear the KAM (keep alive memory) which forces a relearn.

3. I'm not sure how long. I know on my old vehicles I'd open a door or do something to draw power. I've also heard that after it has sat a while touch the negative terminal to the positive to remove any extra power left. But really, the best way is to just wait and use the KAM reset of the tuner.


I really hope #3 is an attempt at sarcasm...because that is one of the dumbest ****ing things you could do with a modern vehicle. You "heard" that you should touch the + terminal to the - terminal????? Good luck with that.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 04:58 AM
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I really hope #3 is an attempt at sarcasm...because that is one of the dumbest ****ing things you could do with a modern vehicle. You "heard" that you should touch the + terminal to the - terminal????? Good luck with that.

I believe he was refering to the neg and pos cables to each other and not the actual terminals on the battery itself. Either way, I did not know of the KAM reset on the SCT, which is the option I used. I do know better than to jump the pos and neg terminals on anything though. I did catch how that was written.
Thanks for the looking out.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 1oldtimer
I believe he was refering to the neg and pos cables to each other and not the actual terminals on the battery itself. Either way, I did not know of the KAM reset on the SCT, which is the option I used. I do know better than to jump the pos and neg terminals on anything though. I did catch how that was written.
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I understood what he was saying. It is still a really bad idea to touch the cable together. Modern vehicles are full of computers, and sensetive electronic components. Even the smallest short could cause one to fail, or even worse, turn into a gremlin that is almost impossible to track down. I have been working with computers and communications equipment for almost twenty years, I have seen static electricity take out a server.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Razorback150
I understood what he was saying. It is still a really bad idea to touch the cable together. Modern vehicles are full of computers, and sensetive electronic components. Even the smallest short could cause one to fail, or even worse, turn into a gremlin that is almost impossible to track down. I have been working with computers and communications equipment for almost twenty years, I have seen static electricity take out a server.
Yes, you are correct. I never even gave the static or residule a thought. Like I said, I do know better and would not have done that. But definetly worth mentioning for those that do not know.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1oldtimer
I believe he was refering to the neg and pos cables to each other and not the actual terminals on the battery itself. Either way, I did not know of the KAM reset on the SCT, which is the option I used. I do know better than to jump the pos and neg terminals on anything though. I did catch how that was written.
Thanks for the looking out.
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Yes, the KAM reset is the best. It is common for the mustangs to reset their KAM before racing so it will revert back to it's base programming that the tuner set.

WARNING!!! If you are using e85 do NOT reset the KAM. You might not get it started again without having to take it to the dealership as the computer will revert back to gas mixture which can be too lean to start when using ethanol. You should run a tank of gasoline and reset the KAM while still on gasoline.

I was referring to touching the battery terminals together, aka the cables, together, not the battery posts. I can't remember what vehicle it called for that, it might have been a 95 pontiac my brother had with a OBD1.5 system which is a bastard because they combined OBDI and OBDII characteristics.
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