4X4 on wet asphalt, snow and ice
#11
Thank you for your advice BLU4TJW. They are much appreciated! You are right about winter tires being mandatory in Quebec and I plan to equip my F-150 with them this fall. What I understand is that I will have to do some training for my wife next winter... So switching between 2H and 4H in winter seem the way to go. It was not necessary with the Santa-Fe because this process was automatic. What about doing a little bit of dry pavement in the winter in 4H between icy road sections. Do you think this may break the truck? Sorry for my poor english, I hope you still understand what I mean ...
When driving around town, making lots of turns, I would avoid driving around in 4 hi unless conditions required it (lots of snow, or real slippery slush conditions).
The beauty of a 4x4 is it will often talk to you when it doesn't like being driven in 4wd. Slight hopping, groans, and temporary grinding noises while turning in too dry a condition let you know you should be in rwd only.
With an adequate snow tire, I honestly don't think it will be an issue. Throw in 150-200lbs of weight in the bed (bags of dirt, sand, I use mulch), and the truck will rarely have to be put into 4x4 anyway.
It won't take long, and you'll find yourself having as much fun driving your truck in the winter in 2wd as in 4wd.
#12
Senior Member
I live in Quebec also, i have an 2011 xlt 4x4 and it is great in the winter 2wd will get you far during the winter, im switching to 4x4 a lot for the performance point of view, but very rarely need it. This year, i have kept my BFG Rugged Trail A/T Tires only because i could untill 2014 in quebec, it did very well ( i have about 400pound in the bed all the time, that might help ). Next year ill be buying Blizzaks because winter is never safe enough, cant wait to try them
Sometime i drive my parents Tucson with awd, its good with the awd system but im not a fan of it, its fun sometime to have the rear of the truck slipping untill you rotate that ****
Sometime i drive my parents Tucson with awd, its good with the awd system but im not a fan of it, its fun sometime to have the rear of the truck slipping untill you rotate that ****
#13
I bought a f-150 which I'm still waiting for delivery. To pass the time I read the owners manual that I found on the Ford website. I should have done that before buying...
My current vehicle is an AWD Hyundai Santa Fe and I learned that I will not be able to use my F-150 the same way ...
2012 F-150 Owner's manual reads: "Do not use 4H (4X4 HIGH) on dry, hard surfaced roads. Doing so can produce excessive noise and increased tire wear. 4H (4X4 HIGH) is only intended for consistently slippery or loose surfaces."
I know (now) that there is a 4A mode (AUTO 4WD) in the Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum and that this mode is not available in the XLT I have ordered ...
Question #1 is: Do you use "4 HIGH" mode on wet surfaces (heavy rain)?
And during the winter here in Canada it is not uncommon to drive on dry, wet (melting snow) and icy surfaces in the same trip...
Question #2: In the winter, did you manually change the 4WD control between 2H and 4H when road conditions change?
My wife will use the truck as much as me and now I wonder if I had made a good choice. Does the F-150 will be as safe as the Santa Fe in the winter?
My current vehicle is an AWD Hyundai Santa Fe and I learned that I will not be able to use my F-150 the same way ...
2012 F-150 Owner's manual reads: "Do not use 4H (4X4 HIGH) on dry, hard surfaced roads. Doing so can produce excessive noise and increased tire wear. 4H (4X4 HIGH) is only intended for consistently slippery or loose surfaces."
I know (now) that there is a 4A mode (AUTO 4WD) in the Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum and that this mode is not available in the XLT I have ordered ...
Question #1 is: Do you use "4 HIGH" mode on wet surfaces (heavy rain)?
And during the winter here in Canada it is not uncommon to drive on dry, wet (melting snow) and icy surfaces in the same trip...
Question #2: In the winter, did you manually change the 4WD control between 2H and 4H when road conditions change?
My wife will use the truck as much as me and now I wonder if I had made a good choice. Does the F-150 will be as safe as the Santa Fe in the winter?
You should do the same.
Your F150 is a superior vehicle to the Hyundai, however your truck's 4WD is to be used differently and one of the different ways of using it is knowing when to throw your truck into 4WD.
FWIW, if you've got to have AWD, cancel your Ford order and buy a Subaru because Subaru makes the best AWD system. Truck wise, consider:
#15
Because of road crown for drainage, all roads force vehicles into a what is effectively, a very long turn even when going straight as they turn into the road crown to go straight down the road. Because of the slight speed difference between the left and right wheels, the transfer case gears and bearings will be excessively loaded leading to premature wear.
In the image below, we easily see that the outside wheels turn at a faster rate than the inside wheels. Without a way to slip the front and rear axels relative to another this leads to blinding in the drivetrain. In perfect traction, tires will be forced to slip but the transfer case was not designed to take that kind of force.
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#17
Canada Truck Guy
Thread Starter
Thank you guys for your advices. I think I'll try the truck without sandbags at the beginning. If two-wheel drive traction is not good enough, I'll try with sandbags in the box.
#18
There may be plenty of guys who disagree, but I don't think you are going to wreck or overly strain anything by keeping the 4wd engaged on the highway, when conditions are changing from icy to snowy to clear, to snowy to clear, to icy etc. But when it is clear and dry for any extended part of your drive, the system should be absolutely switched back into 2wd.
For regular in town driving, and dry highway driving, your point was aptly made.