Al Kohalic

F150 Raptor towing just over 8,000lbs up the Ike Gauntlet. The 6.2L in the F150 is rated to tow more however it is limited to 8,000lbs in the Raptor due to it's suspension.


matched up to the F250 6.2L


Keep in mind this is not really a versus battle as much as it is a test to see how it will handle the load. To bad they didn't allow the Raptor to go over 60 mph like they did with a EB an GM 6.2L although I doubt they would have been able to keep the speed over 60 mph for very long.


Just for reference, the GM 6.2L and F-150 Ecoboost towing a little over 10,000 lbs up and down the same hill.





I will have to say if you notice the brake temps of each video that the bigger V8s clearly have the advantage.

Brake temps

8,000lbs
Raptor 6.2L - Truck Front:161F Rear:162F Trailer:59F
F-250 6.2L - Truck Front: 130F Rear:82F Trailer:66F

10,000lbs
F-150 Ecoboost - Truck Front:617F Rear:372F Trailer:78F(note that the moron did not have tow/haul mode on)
GM 6.2L- Truck Front:252F Rear:161F Trailer:80F
Titan 5.7L- Truck Front:538F Rear:412F Trailer:78F

The trailer brake temps are roughly the same for their load weight while the big V8s all had considerably less truck brake temps than the Ecoboost. I think that goes to show how much engine braking the big V8s have versus the Ecoboost.

GlennRMK

Pretty entertaining how much better the Ecoboost pulls then the 6.2.

I found the the 6.2 Chevy particularly disappointing. That thing needed to just be locked into 2nd gear.

Seemed like Ford 6.2 transmission programming was better, but the Raptor definitely could of been locked into 2nd as well.


Seemed like the Hemi Ram with the 8 speed auto pulled better then everything but the Ecoboost.


Also, seemed like the Nissan Frontier was pretty darn close to the Silverado 5.3. I used to have 04 5.3 and that thing sucked towing. Worst truck I've ever owned. Seems like the new 5.3 isn't much better.

Sure makes me feel great about my Ecoboost.


Also, makes me wish they offered manual transmissions. I hate when the autos shift back and forth. It bugs the heck out of me.

Al Kohalic

Same here. Although the ability to take away gears even in Drive mode by hitting the " - " on the gear selector on the F-150 makes for a lot better towing. It is one of those things that you can't live without after you have towed with it. My work truck EB doesn't have SelectShift since it is a base XLT and I can't stand it when I am towing because I am so used to having it in m personal truck. I even use it in my personal truck when I am unloaded on long stretches of 45-50 mph roads to keep the transmission from bouncing back from 6th to 5th all the time.

rkaminky

Was typing the exact samething.

The select shift makes a WORLD of difference when towing. Its great to be able to lock the truck in 4th and not have it down shift on you when you pulling a long hill like the Eisenhower tunnel.

Al Kohalic

Yep, makes a huge difference. I kind of think it is funny that none of the other makes that have just updated their trucks have this feature when Ford had it since 2009. I have had more then a few people that have driven my truck say "I wish mine had that" when I show them how to use it.

Al Kohalic

Man, I would have thought more people would be interested in this then just 550 people. I guess not.

BigCountryTexas

Actually all this proves is the TFL truck idiots have yet to learn how to setup the brake controller properly. The brakes on the trailer were not being used at all while the trucks were a little. And temps outside were below freezing when this test was done compared to the other tests so the brakes will be colder.

Al Kohalic

What do you set your gain at?

Martiangod

These guys are about as unscientific as it gets.
I like their clips. Real world situations, real world guesstimates, they test the trucks like we compare trucks.
Was interesting with them comparing the 250 with the raptor. \really showed the tranny mapping differences between a 150 and a superduty for towing....bravo. That alone will answer a lot of questions for a lot of peeps when trying to make their purchase decission
Know a guy that tows with a titan, he said it was a bit of a dog outa the box. He took it to a tuner and they threw a 9 degree advance on the timing, he said it woke the truck right up.

Martiangod

One thing I notice on all their comparisons is the 150 brakes get hotter. Is the computer working the brakes that much harder. Of does nobody elses computer utilize the brakes along with engine breaking to control speed?