My first truck was in an accident and the airbags did not deploy. Didn't stop it from being totaled ($35k) with the bed destroyed and the frame turned into a crescent shape.

I refused to look at anything from an accident. Wouldn't necessarily want a 12EB myself, but if those are literally your only 2 choices, the 12 wins in my book.

 

Yep this is what a 5.0 owner tells them self to feel better. Unfortunately the longevity argument is false and then they say well I have enough power how fast do you have to go? Lol.

Both engines are fine and reliable. On has more displacement and is far down on low end torque and revs to make power and one is smaller displacement but has he most low end torque of any half ton gas truck.

Really depends what the buyer wants. But don't let posts like the above influence you.

 

You say you don't want to participate in the bickering but then you post garbage like this, lol.
The turbo engine will cost more money to maintain showroom performance over a 20 year / 300k span. Especially when youre comparing it to a port injected engine that benefits from those PEA fuel cleaners. And before you go defensive on me, I'm not saying the 5.0 lasts longer or is more reliable than the EB. We're saying there is a different maintenance pattern over that period of time between two completely different engines with two different costs of maintenance. Facts are facts.

 

This will effect 1% of original owners. The other 99% will get rid of the truck long before 300k miles.

 

The way I look at it, the turbos are two less items I have to maintain.

 

In my experience, the transmission will go on a truck before the engine.

 

Just don't drive it in the rain.

 

There's no motor out there that becomes MORE reliable when you add turbo, or forced induction in general to it, that's just not reality. Anybody who's familiar with turbocharged motors know that they affect reliability. They have the ABILITY to last as long as their NA counterparts, but the unfortunate reality is there are many more points of failure and something like a turbo going bad can take out an entire block, simple as that, not to mention there is just a lot more pressure and heat going on inside the crank which can cause more metal fatigue and causing potential oiling issues.

These ecoboost motors are pretty solid motors, but the turbos go out on them after a while and if you talk to any ford mechanic, they'll tell you they're more problematic than the 5.0. It's not a matter of opinion, its just the reality of NA vs FI. In my opinion, it seems like there's a lot of people here who are new to turbos and havent deal with the fallout.

 

Yet by 175k the turbo is down on pessure compared to new and the valves are coked. The rate at which performance is lost from these 2 factors is a slope occurring since day 1, not a cliff that happens at exactly 287,412 miles. So actually its affecting closer to 100%.

And don't forget the long term side effects of DI, and those poor timing chains stretching just waiting to break and grenade the engine.

 

Neither of those things has happened to the guy on ecoboost.net that has over 300k miles on his 2011.