2011+ 55-60mph 5.0 Shuddering and EcoBoost Engine Miss/Loss of Power - Possible Fixes
#2021
Senior Member
I'm not sure where you get your facts, but I'd love you to share them with us. Every person I know has the 55-60 mph shudder and by my way of thinking, other owners either haven't had it start up yet or have no idea it's happening. Most of my friends have no idea when my truck is acting up. Only my gearhead buddies notice it and they naturally ask me what's going on. My cousin-in-law has a '12 EB and his does the shudder also, but he had no idea it was happening until I told him as we rode in his truck to the lake one day. Circumstancial evidence is pretty strong that "all" of these trucks have this problem, or will soon and most folks have no idea it's going on!
And by the way, I never said it was fact. And I am talking about the misfire shudder. And if you have this "shudder" type but don't feel it you must be deaf and paralyized from the eyes down.
Unfortunately all these "shudders" have gotten clumped into one big thread. It'd be nice if maybe it would get broken out into driveline shudder and engine miss type shudder? You can hear it in my truck...turbo starts building boost then its cut off then builds again...the whole truck jerks, shakes, lurches back and forth. Seems many people on this thread have a less serious driveline shudder that causes a vibration more or less. Honestly I would live with that any day. I'm worried what I have has the potential to cause major mechanical failures at some point.
If they don't know its happening then I'm sorry the shudder you are talking about really isn't that big of a deal. If you rode in my truck there would be no if ands or buts that there is something wrong.
I'm sorry, maybe some of its my own fault cause when I read this I am assuming people are talking about my shudder type, but realize now most are not and are actually just complaining about how a truck rides so rough/has a little driveline shudder.
I've been trying to capture video/audio of what happens to my truck when it starts happening, but don't think the mic on my cell phone is strong enough to pick up the turbos in the cab. I'm gonna try and record with an actual video camera and see if that works better.
#2022
NEW CAC Affects Performance?
Someone on this Forum has already got the new CAC from Ford and has stated that the power seems less than when he had the old CAC in it. If that is the case couldnt this "fix" cause a case to be made of false advertisement on Fords part when advertising the HP and Torque numbers for the Ecoboost.
Has anyone actually confirmed that the HP and Torque numbers are less with the new CAC? Any dyno runs before/after to back it up?
Has anyone actually confirmed that the HP and Torque numbers are less with the new CAC? Any dyno runs before/after to back it up?
#2023
Senior Member
Someone on this Forum has already got the new CAC from Ford and has stated that the power seems less than when he had the old CAC in it. If that is the case couldnt this "fix" cause a case to be made of false advertisement on Fords part when advertising the HP and Torque numbers for the Ecoboost.
Has anyone actually confirmed that the HP and Torque numbers are less with the new CAC? Any dyno runs before/after to back it up?
Has anyone actually confirmed that the HP and Torque numbers are less with the new CAC? Any dyno runs before/after to back it up?
Either way...I bought this truck for the low end torque for pulling, and I noticed that even with the previous 2 TSB's the truck seems to want to shift more than it did from the factory. If it further lowers this low end performance...I would be very disappointed, which is why I'm hesitant to let them perform any more "fixes" to my truck. Thinking of harrassing them for extended warranty and just leaving it the way it is. Sell when the warranty expires.
#2024
Senior Member
I am talking about the misfire shudder. And if you have this "shudder" type but don't feel it you must be deaf and paralyized from the eyes down.
Unfortunately all these "shudders" have gotten clumped into one big thread. It'd be nice if maybe it would get broken out into driveline shudder and engine miss type shudder? You can hear it in my truck...turbo starts building boost then its cut off then builds again...the whole truck jerks, shakes, lurches back and forth. Seems many people on this thread have a less serious driveline shudder that causes a vibration more or less.
If they don't know its happening then I'm sorry the shudder you are talking about really isn't that big of a deal. If you rode in my truck there would be no if ands or buts that there is something wrong.
Unfortunately all these "shudders" have gotten clumped into one big thread. It'd be nice if maybe it would get broken out into driveline shudder and engine miss type shudder? You can hear it in my truck...turbo starts building boost then its cut off then builds again...the whole truck jerks, shakes, lurches back and forth. Seems many people on this thread have a less serious driveline shudder that causes a vibration more or less.
If they don't know its happening then I'm sorry the shudder you are talking about really isn't that big of a deal. If you rode in my truck there would be no if ands or buts that there is something wrong.
#2025
The deflector actually deflects it AWAY from the intercooler so it doesn't drop the temp of the air in the I/C as low. Is this deflector in addition to what has been discussed here? Have they added a second one? Guessing its the one discussed in this thread and it blocks air from entering the IC.
#2026
The deflector actually deflects it AWAY from the intercooler so it doesn't drop the temp of the air in the I/C as low. Is this deflector in addition to what has been discussed here? Have they added a second one? Guessing its the one discussed in this thread and it blocks air from entering the IC.
#2027
Senior Member
Coworker and I both have had severe misfire issues with our trucks for the past week or so. Both nasty misfires that would cause the trucks to shake/shudder/fall on their face, and make them all around unsafe to drive. Both trucks threw CEL's and the dealers immediately scheduled them for software updates and this intercooler defelector. So far my truck seems to be running better although there is definitely less power, and light-to-medium acceleration is no longer smooth. It's difficult to explain but it's essentially a light surge like the power delivery/tuning is no longer linear.
Anyone else have this issue?
This upcoming week should be interesting with the storms, since this is the type of weather that has typically brought out the misfire issues.
Anyone else have this issue?
This upcoming week should be interesting with the storms, since this is the type of weather that has typically brought out the misfire issues.
#2029
I have not posted in a while.
I have been patiently waiting for months on Ford’s factory broken promises. That is really all they do is break promises; that is broken promises from Ford, not the dealer. The dealer is essentially useless. The things the factory has attempted to do to fix this POS is laughable at best. It is extremely dangerous to drive now.
Ford Motor has absolutely no clue what they are doing. They do not know how to test for it. They have not field tested this vehicle. They do not know how to fix it. When I say “no clue” I mean No Clue.
I was promised to “hear” back from them again last week. Well that did not happen either.
There is no question the F150 EcoBoost is one thousand times worse than the 6.0 Diesel ever was. I guess that is a success for them? The 6.0 Diesel was not life threatening!
I have never owned a new vehicle that has fallen apart as quickly at this one. Trust me the 6.0 diesel EGR cooler failures at 50,000 miles are a vastly superior product to the EcoBoost. There is no comparison at all. Not even close!
I was in “hope” (where have I heard that before); that they would keep their promise last week and resolve this issue. So far they have not kept their promise. If they do not keep their promise it only means the “warranty” is not worth the paper it is written on.
I have been patiently waiting for months on Ford’s factory broken promises. That is really all they do is break promises; that is broken promises from Ford, not the dealer. The dealer is essentially useless. The things the factory has attempted to do to fix this POS is laughable at best. It is extremely dangerous to drive now.
Ford Motor has absolutely no clue what they are doing. They do not know how to test for it. They have not field tested this vehicle. They do not know how to fix it. When I say “no clue” I mean No Clue.
I was promised to “hear” back from them again last week. Well that did not happen either.
There is no question the F150 EcoBoost is one thousand times worse than the 6.0 Diesel ever was. I guess that is a success for them? The 6.0 Diesel was not life threatening!
I have never owned a new vehicle that has fallen apart as quickly at this one. Trust me the 6.0 diesel EGR cooler failures at 50,000 miles are a vastly superior product to the EcoBoost. There is no comparison at all. Not even close!
I was in “hope” (where have I heard that before); that they would keep their promise last week and resolve this issue. So far they have not kept their promise. If they do not keep their promise it only means the “warranty” is not worth the paper it is written on.
#2030
Senior Member
Originally Posted by HoustonFordGuy
I have not posted in a while.
I have been patiently waiting for months on Ford's factory broken promises. That is really all they do is break promises; that is broken promises from Ford, not the dealer. The dealer is essentially useless. The things the factory has attempted to do to fix this POS is laughable at best. It is extremely dangerous to drive now.
Ford Motor has absolutely no clue what they are doing. They do not know how to test for it. They have not field tested this vehicle. They do not know how to fix it. When I say "no clue" I mean No Clue.
I was promised to "hear" back from them again last week. Well that did not happen either.
There is no question the F150 EcoBoost is one thousand times worse than the 6.0 Diesel ever was. I guess that is a success for them? The 6.0 Diesel was not life threatening!
I have never owned a new vehicle that has fallen apart as quickly at this one. Trust me the 6.0 diesel EGR cooler failures at 50,000 miles are a vastly superior product to the EcoBoost. There is no comparison at all. Not even close!
I was in "hope" (where have I heard that before); that they would keep their promise last week and resolve this issue. So far they have not kept their promise. If they do not keep their promise it only means the "warranty" is not worth the paper it is written on.
I have been patiently waiting for months on Ford's factory broken promises. That is really all they do is break promises; that is broken promises from Ford, not the dealer. The dealer is essentially useless. The things the factory has attempted to do to fix this POS is laughable at best. It is extremely dangerous to drive now.
Ford Motor has absolutely no clue what they are doing. They do not know how to test for it. They have not field tested this vehicle. They do not know how to fix it. When I say "no clue" I mean No Clue.
I was promised to "hear" back from them again last week. Well that did not happen either.
There is no question the F150 EcoBoost is one thousand times worse than the 6.0 Diesel ever was. I guess that is a success for them? The 6.0 Diesel was not life threatening!
I have never owned a new vehicle that has fallen apart as quickly at this one. Trust me the 6.0 diesel EGR cooler failures at 50,000 miles are a vastly superior product to the EcoBoost. There is no comparison at all. Not even close!
I was in "hope" (where have I heard that before); that they would keep their promise last week and resolve this issue. So far they have not kept their promise. If they do not keep their promise it only means the "warranty" is not worth the paper it is written on.