1010 miles mulitple misfires...
 

I have 1010 miles on my new 150 Ecoboost and while driving today it fell on its face, started sputtering, no power, I mean no power, would not move forward... check engine light on....

Walked home got my 74 bronco which had not been started in two months and started right up and drove back and pulled codes. Multiple misfires on cylinders four through six. Any ideas? Really pissed off. Ford is coming to tow it to the dealership but not how I planned to spend my Sunday afternoon...

Thoughts?

Yup bad drivers side cat most likely. Could be caused by condensation issue or something just defective with that few miles on it.

Edit - doesn't sound like the usual condensation issue even though it is affecting the same cylinders. I'm sure the dealer will fix it up.

Wow! truck already has issues? I feel for you, I bet it slapped the new truck smell right out of you!

It may be something simple. Don't jump to conclusions just yet.

Something simple? really..C'mon man..No truck should breakdown at all after 1000 miles,, I don't care what brand or what engine..just sad.

It's not uncommon, I know of at least 5 new trucks that never even made it home without crapping out--of course 3 of those were chebbys. And that's just people I am acquainted with.

Its still stupid for how much you pay for these trucks and to have issuses that quick.

Is this a '13 or '14? Sorry if in your sig, that info doesn't show using the app like I am now with iPhone. I've got just under 5,000 miles on my EcoBoost, and had what felt like a miss at a stop sign. Left me at idle, listless for 1-2 seconds then carried on un eventfully since. In my case there were no codes or CEL.

Someone here or on another thread posted a spark plug issue Ford is having with the EB causing misfires. I'm not that worried with mine yet, as it hasn't done it again. But in your case your right in taking it back to the dealer.

While, I'm sure it's possible to have a bad catalyst from the factory, I don't think a perfectly functional one could fail in less than 1500 miles on a new truck. Perhaps bad gas, if you have a reader, plug it in and see if you can get a temp reading from each side.

I did this on my truck when I brought it home with 80 miles on the clock, both cats read the exact same temp, throughout the rev-band. If one side was hotter or cooler than the other, that could indicate a catalyst failure?

It's the Ecobust...hundreds of posts on this forum about the same issue. It's the red headed stepchild of Ford. What an embarrassment. You will see the posts coming to defend Ford but if you have an Ecobust you will eventually encounter the same problems, it's just a matter of time.

Or maybe not. I'm on my second EcoBoost and haven't had 1 problem with either.

Or maybe not. I'm on my second EcoBoost and haven't had 1 problem with either.

Guess my glass is half full instead of half empty. Life is a bunch harder when you expend so much energy on a negative attitude.

Don't worry, it'll get fixed. Let us know what they replaced.




You'll also get those that continually bash the Eco. They just can't seem to stay away from any thread about them, good or bad.

Exactly……. mine has about 20k and ZERO problems… so far! Friend has 75k on his with ZERO problems! What's strange is not all eco's are affected with this problem?

Ford really does need to get these issue fixed for ALL eco boost engines if they want to continue selling them….. I also think they should get done sooner then later imo………..

I've got 58000 km on mine and it's been great.

Until we really know what went on his, we can't really jump to conclusions yet. It's kind of low mileage for condensation.

Still hiding under the Ecoboost bridge. Trolls just can't wait to pounce.

I agree with you..you have had no problems "so far". Anyone who spends close to 50k for a Ford product should not have to worry about this issue. It seems like anyone who brings the problem up or calls Ford out on the Ecoboost condensation studder,shut down,power loss,ect. they are ridiculed for bashing that model. Just look at the hundreds of posts on this problem and the lack of Ford not having a proven reliable solution. It's a joke. Of all the hundreds of posts relating to problems with our trucks it's the Ecoboost that is facing litigation.

Sorry - it is a 2013 Platinum F-150. Just turned 1000 miles yesterday. I am not jumping off the bridge yet. I will let everyone know what the dealer says. I can't check temps, etc... b/c they took it away on the wrecker this afternoon. I am 46 and this is only the second brand new vehicle I have purchased, first in 17 years so yeah it took the new car smell right off the truck. I have enjoyed the first 1000 miles. A little disappointed in the mpg but it is a truck and I have been a little heavy on the peddle so that is to be expected plus it is still breaking in.


I will update the post as soon as I get some feedback from the dealer - hopefully tomorrow.


ChrisC74...

There has also been HUGE issues with the 5.4 Tritons!! Ask me how I know that… I OWNED ONE!! Now eventually the problems were addressed but it was pretty damn annoying for owners that struggled with plug and head problems. Didn't make it right but it happened!

The REAL issue is how Ford deals with these engineering problems. You don't really believe they did it on purpose do you? Or it's a plot to to bankrupt themselves? It happens with many it not most mechanical/electrical devices.

You say hundreds experiences these problems.. right? Based on an EXTREMELY small sample of Eco Boost owners here! What percentage of Eco owners actually have these issues….. I don't know but neither do you!

There are some issues with these engines but so do almost ALL engines have issues as I pointed on the 5.4! It's the percentage that counts as nothing is 100% imo. Mine has been 100% fine, my buddies with far greater miles has been trouble free! Are they the exception or the rule? Again the sample size from the forum is FAR to small to be meaningful.. except to say some owners have this power loss or missing problem.

Bottom line is Ford "MUST" address the problem and fix it! It's not one of life's great mysteries imo. Mechanical problems can almost always be corrected or fixed unless the entire design is faulty. I serious doubt that's the problem here…… and I'm confident Ford will get it fix. They have to get it fixed or with draw the Eco from the market.. NOT HAPPENING! It's an engineering problem that need to be solved.. nothing more. Ford needs to take care of every Eco owner that has these issues or yes.. they will find themselves involved with trying to settle one extremely expensive lawsuit………

Could be something as simple as a tank full of bad gas or moisture in the tank! Yes a PITA but relax and let the dealer fix it… I bought a new vette in 07 and had less then 400 miles when the ABF module failed… put me into limp mode and I was not happy. Dealer fixed it and it's been good ever since… still own it too. So it can happen with any manufactures vehicle……….

You guys need to quit trying to use things like logic on trollsmuggler. The Eco is a pile of junk. I mean, there are lawsuits and people complain about it on the internet!

It must be just awful.

The main reason I didn't buy a ecoboost is purely because my company bought about 35 of them for the office staff. Not one single one made it anywhere close to having 200k km on it without some or a lot of serious engine work. They also seem to like to have serious issuses right after warranty runs out haha. But to be fair that was the second year of ecboosts so they might have gotten better long term reliability by now.

Hi ChrisC74,


I'll keep an eye on this thread, but feel free to reach out to me directly via PM as well; I'll be happy to check out some ways to assist. In your message, be sure to include your full name, best daytime phone number, VIN, mileage, and servicing dealership.

Crystal

Got a call from the service manager late yesterday afternoon. They had been discussing the issue with Ford and collectively decided to replace the 4, 5 and 6 injectors and some wiring connectors.

The dealership said they had not seen this problem before. They have been very helpful but I really hope we are not grasping straws.

Thoughts?

Biggest line of BS dealerships give by the way.

Do you ever make useful contributions to this forum?


Every time I see your name its something troll-ish

I'm having a major misfire issue with my F150 Ecoboost. During highway speeds if I step on it, it misfires badly, kicks engine light on. Even the service tech said it was an issue when they rode in it and they claimed they found all my plugs to be over gapped and wants me to replace all the plugs on my dime, but Ford Customers Service acknowledge the plugs installed from factory are over gapped but they still want me to cough out $500 to change them. I'm so upset and unhappy. Amanda the regional service manager was very rude and nasty. I can't see myself buying another Ford even though there trucks look the best.

is your misfire occur when you in 6th gear and cruising and then slightly accelerate and then feel the misfires/sputter feeling just like bad gas or such?

I guess if the issues with the ecoboost was fabricated it would be "trolling". Google "ecoboost lawsuit" and read for yourself. Maybe the dozens of pages are just made up????

Save your money and replace the plugs yourself because you know they have been taken out already.

You should be upset....if it's under warrant then demand that they fix it.

Are you under the 3/36 warranty still? I'm assuming not. If you are tell them to change them. If not do it yourself. It's easy and cheap.

Just wanted to give an update on my issue. Dealer changed out injectors 4, 5, 6. Problem still present. It was determined after more digging that there was a loose impellor on the left side turbo so a new one has been ordered and will be installed in the next couple of days.


I would rather have my new car back but the dealer has been great - they have given me a comparable loaner and I am still confident that this will get resolved and I will get my new car back and enjoy the boost once again.

Ugh hopefully this isn't a fix where the dealer just keeps throwing parts at it until they shrug their shoulders and say we don't know. At least your dealer is still working with you on it and hopefully that is the fix, keep us posted and good luck! :thumbsup:

Thanks I am hopeful - we will see. I am not an engine expert but can tell you right before the loss of power I did hear a rattle in the engine. They said this could very well have been the impellor making the noise. I did pass on that info at the beginning but I do not know if the current tech is the one who started on it or a new one.

Sounds like something wasn't quite right from the factory, turbo would explain the misfires.

It sounds like things are headed in the right direction, ChrisC74. Give me a shout via PM if you need any additional assistance. :thumbsup:

Crystal

Google anything to find anything!


The internet is huge, and before people will jump on the internet to write shiny reviews for amazing products they will start up a new thread about how terrible it is.


Keep trolling away, but I think we would all appreciate helpful input not trolllinggg

Public education was not kind to you.

Thanks Crystal. Will do.

Picked up truck yesterday, have not driven it very much yet but it stays running so that is a good thing. Will put some miles on it this weekend and give it a good test.


Parts replaced:
Left bank spark plugs
Left bank fuel injectors
Left bank wiring / connectors - some parts replaced
CAC
Left bank turbo
Valve covers removed and internals inspected.
Compression tested and passed.


Final diagnosis - left side turbo had a loose impeller.


Hopefully this was just a new part that had an issue.


Dealer was good to work with - brought me a loaner and kept in contact.


Keeping fingers crossed. It is nice to have my new truck back.

Your probably on top of it already by this time, but I had a similar issue. I pulled all the spark plugs (SP 528) and checked the gaps. A few plugs were pretty off, I put in Fords new spark plug SP534 that come pre gapped. I did a quality check on the new plugs gap to make sure and adjusted a couple that were off. Ford's new plugs are .030 and the SP528 that came stock in 2012 were gapped to .035 (well supposed to be anyway, the consistancy was not stellar). My misfires are gone and the truck runs great for me now (I have about 50K miles), I usally bring in my truck to be serviced , but for the plugs, I just do not trust the technician to care enough to ensure correct gap on all the plugs. Good luck and hope your truck is free of the issues now.

Your on point! 2011 and 2012 Spark Plugs 528's are the wrong plugs for the F150 EcoBoost. Installed the 534's and the misfire is corrected..

I can certainly understand your point of paying this much for a truck, but put it in to perspective of the number of trucks produced. The fact we pay X for something doesn't change the human side of mistakes and defects. Ford has design, engineering, marketing, etc. and the list goes on. Everyone wants a profit oh and we want the latest features at the lowest price!

If you went and bought a new Samsung TV for 1500, brought it home and in two weeks had an issue would you brand all Samsung TV's as junk or would you think, eh I got a bad one of the bunch. We get on forums to find answers and become more educated about our products. It helps our position too when we see others with similar problems.

Ford has CS reps in this forum, Facebook, and dealers that will address your concerns.

I doesn't make me happy either if I have a problem (and hope I am not in this boat with this new truck!) but I do understand things happen and truthfully Ford has stepped up for me twice on repairs that were outside of my warranty and one I wasn't the original owner.

Its sounds like your dealership experience was a positive one, glad to hear your truck is running better.