Lets see those off-road pictures
01-03-2021, 01:43 AM
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Here is a vid of me sliding down a hill.
https://youtu.be/9Qtc8EexQ_c
https://youtu.be/9Qtc8EexQ_c
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01-03-2021, 01:48 AM
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Couldn't you find a bigger hill??
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01-03-2021, 01:54 AM
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01-03-2021, 02:18 AM
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01-03-2021, 07:45 AM
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Loving all the new pictures, and that hill is serious! Out here in the northeast there a fewer and fewer places to take the truck out to play. Here in CT there is basically nothing. I grew up in CO. I’ve been watching lots of off-road YouTube videos from out west and up north in Canada. It’s starting to hurt my soul. Keep on enjoying it guys. There’s some amazing country out there to explore!
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01-03-2021, 10:15 AM
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Says you don't need chains if you run a severe weather rated tire with the Mountain/ Snowflake symbol.
I have gotten stuck in the snow in the past on different tires, but not since I have switched.
I have thought about getting chains for when we have an Ice Storm, but I really don't need to go anywhere.
So it's cheaper to watch it melt and listen to the accidents on the police scanner. lol
All-Terrain Tires with Mountain/Snowflake Symbol - Chad's 742 on Performance Tires & Wheels | Tire Rack
If your "passenger vehicle" or "light-duty trucks under 6,000 pounds gross weight" is equipped with snow tires on at least two drive wheels... the California Highway Patrol will look at the driver door jamb vehicle manufacturer date plate for your GVWR. Even though my 4644 lb curb weight (new and empty) aluminum-bodied truck when loaded weighs 5500 lbs, it has a 6800# Payload Package (it's GVWR)... so I would need to chain up, regardless (2WD/4 X 2). And now I discover my small 3000 lb GVWR box trailer camper that has electric brakes is required to have chains. Here goes another $200...
Chain Requirement Levels
Chain Requirement Levels
During the winter months, motorists may encounter traction chain controls in the mountain areas within California. When chain controls are established, signs will be posted along the road indicating the type of requirement. There are Three Levels of Chain Requirements in California:
R-1 and R-2 are the most common conditions. A highway will often be closed before an R-3 condition is imposed. Some local areas may use variations of these designations. You must follow the directions on the signs posted for chain controls or any instructions given by Caltrans or CHP personnel at chain control check points, even if these are at variance with broadcast road condition reports or information contained herein.
1 Snow-tread Tires: The California Vehicle Code, Section 558 defines a snow-tread tire as follows, "A 'Snow-tread tire' is a tire which has a relatively deep and aggressive tread pattern compared with conventional passenger tread pattern". Snow-tread tires can be identified by examining the sidewall of the tire where the letters MS, M/S, M+S or the words MUD AND SNOW have been stamped into the sidewall.
- Requirement 1 (R-1): Chains are required on all vehicles except passenger vehicles and light-duty trucks under 6,000 pounds gross weight and equipped with snow tires on at least two drive wheels. Chains must be carried by vehicles using snow tires. All vehicles towing trailers must have chains on one drive axle. Trailers with brakes must have chains on at least one axle.
- Requirement 2 (R2): Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles except four-wheel/all-wheel drive vehicles with snow-tread tires on all four wheels.
NOTE: (Four-wheel/all-wheel drive vehicles must carry traction devices in chain control areas.) - Requirement 3 (R3): Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles, no exceptions.
R-1 and R-2 are the most common conditions. A highway will often be closed before an R-3 condition is imposed. Some local areas may use variations of these designations. You must follow the directions on the signs posted for chain controls or any instructions given by Caltrans or CHP personnel at chain control check points, even if these are at variance with broadcast road condition reports or information contained herein.
1 Snow-tread Tires: The California Vehicle Code, Section 558 defines a snow-tread tire as follows, "A 'Snow-tread tire' is a tire which has a relatively deep and aggressive tread pattern compared with conventional passenger tread pattern". Snow-tread tires can be identified by examining the sidewall of the tire where the letters MS, M/S, M+S or the words MUD AND SNOW have been stamped into the sidewall.
*trailer brakes (electric, or hydraulic [surge]) are required on any trailer weighing over 1500 lbs - another California requirement
So, getting back to those folks who got stuck that night, trapping 100s of motorists behind them... even if! their vehicles had M+S-rated tires, what if the tires were worn out? Either way, I think we can all agree that just because you can (not chain up) doesn't mean you should (not). Getting stuck is no fun when you're on your own but getting stuck and jamming traffic is another story.
I would think up your way in the Great White North you'd be on studded tires for a few months of the year.
Apologies for the threadjack even if it's wintertime.
01-03-2021, 11:23 AM
#3187
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M+S isn't the same as Mountain Snowflake winter rating.
At the very least, were I to drive in mountains in autumn, winter, or spring, at the very least I would have a 3 peak Mountain Snowflake rated tires.
I live 12+ hours of driving from mountains tho.
We're I to live near actual mountains I'd own chains.
You must be on a greasy hill when near full tread duratracs and KO2s are behaving like street tires.
As it stands, I'm about fed up with 3 Peak rated all terrains on icey streets and am going to run separate set of winters on the next truck. Maybe studded
At the very least, were I to drive in mountains in autumn, winter, or spring, at the very least I would have a 3 peak Mountain Snowflake rated tires.
I live 12+ hours of driving from mountains tho.
We're I to live near actual mountains I'd own chains.
You must be on a greasy hill when near full tread duratracs and KO2s are behaving like street tires.
As it stands, I'm about fed up with 3 Peak rated all terrains on icey streets and am going to run separate set of winters on the next truck. Maybe studded
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01-03-2021, 04:44 PM
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We cant run studded tires in Mi.
Where I used to hunt there was a big hill , and one time it was icy and made for a white knuckle ride.
But every other time in the snow my Super Duty just walked up that hill without out even spinning the tires. (BFG KO's)
After slipping and sliding all over the place on the ice I figured I would by chains for the next hunting season.
But my buddy got divorced and sold the property the next spring.
Sucks too, me and my other 2 buddies would have bought it had we known.
10 acres of woods by Wolverine Mi.
Where I used to hunt there was a big hill , and one time it was icy and made for a white knuckle ride.
But every other time in the snow my Super Duty just walked up that hill without out even spinning the tires. (BFG KO's)
After slipping and sliding all over the place on the ice I figured I would by chains for the next hunting season.
But my buddy got divorced and sold the property the next spring.
Sucks too, me and my other 2 buddies would have bought it had we known.
10 acres of woods by Wolverine Mi.
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01-03-2021, 10:00 PM
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A couple videos I took with the new GoPro my wife got me for Christmas. Sorry guys, not into the editing just yet. The eibach kit seems to work best at higher speeds and less so on the slow rock sections. Ended up with about 40 minutes of video overall. Unfortunately CT doesn’t offer the kind of wheeling you guys have out west, but I suppose I have to be thankful for what I do have.
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