F150 BIG stereo system owners
08-08-2012, 10:23 PM
#11
I consider myself to have an "above average" sound system in my 2006 Ford F150. I've got (4) 10's in my F150 and I'm constantly finding myself wanting more.. MUCH MORE! My wife and I were joking about my stereo system in my F150 when she made the statement, "I don't care what you do to your truck". She gave me the nod of approval to do whatever I want to the truck as long as she could get a new car in the next couple of months. Perfect!
Well, I am heavily considering going with TEN 10" subs ~or~ SIX 15" subs. Does anyone have a BIG sound system in their F150? I'm not too concerned about Hummers, Tahoes, Escalades, Excursions, Impalas, Civics, etc.. I'm pretty much interested in real builds by real people in privately owned F150's (F250 & F350 owners too). I would be VERY interested in your input. I'm not interested in the BIG BUDGET STEREO GIANT owned / sponsored F150's.
To those who do own said vehicles, how is your vehicle used? Daily driver? Weekend warrior? Show truck? Do you have any issues with the F150 interior? Have you experienced any issues with blowing the seals on your windshield? Your 3rd brake light? Do you wish you could down size the system because of the added weight or bulkiness? If you have any pictures or videos, please feel free to post them up in here and any comments about doing a BIG sound system in our trucks, whether positive or negative, are always welcomed. Let's remain civilized and on topic.
Well, I am heavily considering going with TEN 10" subs ~or~ SIX 15" subs. Does anyone have a BIG sound system in their F150? I'm not too concerned about Hummers, Tahoes, Escalades, Excursions, Impalas, Civics, etc.. I'm pretty much interested in real builds by real people in privately owned F150's (F250 & F350 owners too). I would be VERY interested in your input. I'm not interested in the BIG BUDGET STEREO GIANT owned / sponsored F150's.
To those who do own said vehicles, how is your vehicle used? Daily driver? Weekend warrior? Show truck? Do you have any issues with the F150 interior? Have you experienced any issues with blowing the seals on your windshield? Your 3rd brake light? Do you wish you could down size the system because of the added weight or bulkiness? If you have any pictures or videos, please feel free to post them up in here and any comments about doing a BIG sound system in our trucks, whether positive or negative, are always welcomed. Let's remain civilized and on topic.
I have had two blow thru systems in my truck, there was six 12's powered by three crossfire 1000s's. the second setup was three memphis mojo 15's powered by same amps.i used to drive my truck daily when had big systems in it but stopped driving it daily due to the added weight of system. i have never had any problems wit my interior or windshield or 3rd brake light. i stayed away from doing big sytems and built my console to hold 4 tens.
08-08-2012, 10:23 PM
#12
Proudly Canadian
I would definitely go for 10's. When I do my stereo up in a big way it'll be with either 10's or 12's. Most likely 10's though. I like the up firing idea that was posted above, but as I mentioned, with 10's.
And depending on what you see as a "big" amplifier, you might be wanting more than just a couple extra batteries. For example I'll use some DC Audio subs. Go with the XL (http://dcsoundlab.com/xl.html) which has an RMS/peak of 2200/4400W. For easy figuring say you put 3000W to each sub. That's 30,000 watts!!!!!! Requiring three (3) 10,000W amps (DC makes those too). That's going to need alooooooooot more than "a couple batteries". Lmao!! So again, it all depends in what your idea of a "big" amp is and how much you plan on running power wise.
Furthermore, what are you planning on doing for your mids and highs? One set of components will NOT be enough to keep up with that much power at your low end. You'll most likely be looking at having to do custom pods/multiple sets.
You may have considered all these options already. I'm just throwing out what input I have
Ps. I know a few guys with big builds but nothing in an f150. 4 18's in a chev supercab, 8 15's in a Yukon. Also, verrrry helpful video. Might have seen it before. But it helped me.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...G5Kd84nk&gl=CA
And depending on what you see as a "big" amplifier, you might be wanting more than just a couple extra batteries. For example I'll use some DC Audio subs. Go with the XL (http://dcsoundlab.com/xl.html) which has an RMS/peak of 2200/4400W. For easy figuring say you put 3000W to each sub. That's 30,000 watts!!!!!! Requiring three (3) 10,000W amps (DC makes those too). That's going to need alooooooooot more than "a couple batteries". Lmao!! So again, it all depends in what your idea of a "big" amp is and how much you plan on running power wise.
Furthermore, what are you planning on doing for your mids and highs? One set of components will NOT be enough to keep up with that much power at your low end. You'll most likely be looking at having to do custom pods/multiple sets.
You may have considered all these options already. I'm just throwing out what input I have
Ps. I know a few guys with big builds but nothing in an f150. 4 18's in a chev supercab, 8 15's in a Yukon. Also, verrrry helpful video. Might have seen it before. But it helped me.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...G5Kd84nk&gl=CA
08-09-2012, 04:56 PM
#13
Senior Member
Random idea.... What if you did 2 15's, 2 12's, 2 10's and 2 8's, where each pair handled dedicated band of frequency, rolling from 20 - 250hz. Again, it's a random idea. Would there be any benefit to such a set up?
from my experience, just 'cause polk says .65 cuft for a sealed enclosure, that doesn't mean that is what you should do. RF said to do .65 for mine. I did .7. Sounded terrible. Previous sealed box was .9 , which sounded very good. An installer intown says manufactures always err on the side of smaller to protect the driver. Bigger is better. This is from my experience and hearsay.
My two cents... keep the change.
from my experience, just 'cause polk says .65 cuft for a sealed enclosure, that doesn't mean that is what you should do. RF said to do .65 for mine. I did .7. Sounded terrible. Previous sealed box was .9 , which sounded very good. An installer intown says manufactures always err on the side of smaller to protect the driver. Bigger is better. This is from my experience and hearsay.
My two cents... keep the change.
08-09-2012, 11:33 PM
#14
Absolutely no benefit and would be extremely difficult to tune to the point is doesn't sound terrible. You want the minimum number of frequency divisions possible in a system. Adding 3 extraneous ones makes no sense. That and the 12s, 10s and 8s do nothing that the 15s can't.
08-09-2012, 11:49 PM
#15
Well guys.. It has been done. I made the executive decision today and purchased most of my gear. Here is what I bought:
(2) Polk Audio PA D1000.1 mono amplfiers 1200 watts at 1 ohm
(6) Polk Audio MM1540 single voice coil 15" subwoofers
If I wired three subs per amp, that will drop me down to a 1.3 ohm load. I have a very reliable source that the Polk Amps that I purchased are closer to 1600 watts (1584?) at 14.4 volts. I am running a solid 14 volts with the upgrade of my electrical system. Sooooo, I should be putting down an easy 1400 watts to per (3) subs. The math roughly equates to a maximum output of 466 watts per sub. These MM1540 subs handle 425w RMS. That is PERFECT! The xmax on these subs are crazy at 25mm. I am NOT going for SPL but SQ (with a dash of SPL obviously from (6) 15's).
I will also have my Polk Audio PA 1100.5 amp in this build. This amp is a beast! It will easily push my (2) Polk Audio MM691 6x9's and (2) pairs of MM5251 component 5 1/4" mids and highs. Since it's a 5 channel amplifier, I am keeping my (2) Polk Audio MM1040 dual voice coil 10" subs in my center console. This build is going to be well above average. I don't plan on winning any SPL contests but with a very solid system build, I am planning to be around 150 decibels. I think that's a very realistic figure.
I've been in the car audio scene since 1988-ish and used to compete with my 1985 GMC Jimmy, back in the day. I stopped competing around 1996 but have always remained an avid car audio enthusiast.
(2) 10's
(6) 15's
(3) amplifiers
- PA D1000.1 @ approximately 1400w @ 1.3 ohms (running 3 - SVC 15's)
- PA D1000.1 @ approximately 1400w @ 1.3 ohms (running 3 - SVC 15's)
- PA 1100.5 @ 125w x 4 @ 2 ohms (mids and highs) + 600w @ 1 ohm (running 2 - DVC 10's)
I still have to purchase additional mids / highs but that's no biggie. That does mean that I now officially have (4) used Polk Audio 5x7 db571's and (2) brand new Polk Audio MM691 6x9's for sale. I'll also be selling my subthump under the rear seat dual 10" box. Not installed on this box is a metal trim piece that I had planned to powder coat that covers the front portion of the box. I had it custom built to fit the box by a local fabricating company called M&M Enterprises in White Settlement, Texas. The trim piece was just picked up (2) days ago and set me back $98 (bare metal, non powder coated).
(2) Polk Audio PA D1000.1 mono amplfiers 1200 watts at 1 ohm
(6) Polk Audio MM1540 single voice coil 15" subwoofers
If I wired three subs per amp, that will drop me down to a 1.3 ohm load. I have a very reliable source that the Polk Amps that I purchased are closer to 1600 watts (1584?) at 14.4 volts. I am running a solid 14 volts with the upgrade of my electrical system. Sooooo, I should be putting down an easy 1400 watts to per (3) subs. The math roughly equates to a maximum output of 466 watts per sub. These MM1540 subs handle 425w RMS. That is PERFECT! The xmax on these subs are crazy at 25mm. I am NOT going for SPL but SQ (with a dash of SPL obviously from (6) 15's).
I will also have my Polk Audio PA 1100.5 amp in this build. This amp is a beast! It will easily push my (2) Polk Audio MM691 6x9's and (2) pairs of MM5251 component 5 1/4" mids and highs. Since it's a 5 channel amplifier, I am keeping my (2) Polk Audio MM1040 dual voice coil 10" subs in my center console. This build is going to be well above average. I don't plan on winning any SPL contests but with a very solid system build, I am planning to be around 150 decibels. I think that's a very realistic figure.
I've been in the car audio scene since 1988-ish and used to compete with my 1985 GMC Jimmy, back in the day. I stopped competing around 1996 but have always remained an avid car audio enthusiast.
(2) 10's
(6) 15's
(3) amplifiers
- PA D1000.1 @ approximately 1400w @ 1.3 ohms (running 3 - SVC 15's)
- PA D1000.1 @ approximately 1400w @ 1.3 ohms (running 3 - SVC 15's)
- PA 1100.5 @ 125w x 4 @ 2 ohms (mids and highs) + 600w @ 1 ohm (running 2 - DVC 10's)
I still have to purchase additional mids / highs but that's no biggie. That does mean that I now officially have (4) used Polk Audio 5x7 db571's and (2) brand new Polk Audio MM691 6x9's for sale. I'll also be selling my subthump under the rear seat dual 10" box. Not installed on this box is a metal trim piece that I had planned to powder coat that covers the front portion of the box. I had it custom built to fit the box by a local fabricating company called M&M Enterprises in White Settlement, Texas. The trim piece was just picked up (2) days ago and set me back $98 (bare metal, non powder coated).
Last edited by officermartinez; 08-09-2012 at 11:55 PM.
08-10-2012, 09:28 PM
#18
Had a wonderful discussion with the senior Polk Audio technical advisor / technician (Mr. K. Jasper) on their Polk Audio MM1540 sub. Learned a few things about this specific sub and based on his advise, it's going to be full speed ahead. I am going to attempt to do a good job on keeping this build up to date with everything I do (including pictures). Everyone likes to judge pics, so this build is no different. I told Mr. Jasper that I would be forwarding this build log to him at Polk Audio and when I explained that I had TWO of their Polk Audio MM series 10's already in place and was going to be installing SIX additional MM series 15's with TWO more of their amplifiers, he seemed genuinely excited about keeping the updates coming + the final end result.
I have two designs of the sub layout / box design but anyone with a program who would be interested in playing around with a design, I am open to your design. There are a few criteria that I cannot deviate from:
- I will not go "only" FOUR 15's or increase it to EIGHT 15's. SIX 15's.
- I cannot / will not consider a full wall where I can't see out of my back window.
- I will not consider additional amplifiers or different types of subs.
- This build is NOT for SPL. Please, no bandpass or ported enclosurers. Sealed only. This is not a competition vehicle and it will be primarily used for SQ.
- After speaker to the developer of this sub, he insists that 1.5 cuft is the EXACT amount of VAS for their sub.
- Anything more than 1.6 cuft or less than 1.5 cuft, is not acceptable.
The speakers will be SVC and (3) 15's will be running on one amplifer and the other (3) on the other amplifier. I will running a 1.3 ohm load. The amp's might be a bit warm so I will need to run some type of active cooling on them.
Here are my TOTAL dimensions that I cannot exceed:
Length - 48 inches
Width - 20 inches
Height - ??? Anywhere from 24 inches to a maximum of 30 inches is acceptable
* Each sub will need to have its' own sealed chamber. I prefer to have ALL SIX chambers equal (not 3 chambers at 1.5 cuft and 3 chambers at 1.6 cuft). If I decide to go with your design over mine, I will give you props and throw a little prop cash your way for your time and effort. One of my designs I have is just a straight forward, SIX subs facing forward. (3) on top and (3) on bottom. The box will be 30" tall and 48" in length. The depth will be according to the final outcome ratio of 1.5cuft per enclosure. Nothing fancy, just staight forward..
Someone suggested firing ALL SIX subs down at the floor. How he envisioned it, is up to anyone? I'm sure it would sound ok but it would be hard to see if all (6) subs were firing properly.. hmmmm. Anyway, I'm very excited to be sharing this build in my F150 with others in the best F150 community on the net!
I have two designs of the sub layout / box design but anyone with a program who would be interested in playing around with a design, I am open to your design. There are a few criteria that I cannot deviate from:
- I will not go "only" FOUR 15's or increase it to EIGHT 15's. SIX 15's.
- I cannot / will not consider a full wall where I can't see out of my back window.
- I will not consider additional amplifiers or different types of subs.
- This build is NOT for SPL. Please, no bandpass or ported enclosurers. Sealed only. This is not a competition vehicle and it will be primarily used for SQ.
- After speaker to the developer of this sub, he insists that 1.5 cuft is the EXACT amount of VAS for their sub.
- Anything more than 1.6 cuft or less than 1.5 cuft, is not acceptable.
The speakers will be SVC and (3) 15's will be running on one amplifer and the other (3) on the other amplifier. I will running a 1.3 ohm load. The amp's might be a bit warm so I will need to run some type of active cooling on them.
Here are my TOTAL dimensions that I cannot exceed:
Length - 48 inches
Width - 20 inches
Height - ??? Anywhere from 24 inches to a maximum of 30 inches is acceptable
* Each sub will need to have its' own sealed chamber. I prefer to have ALL SIX chambers equal (not 3 chambers at 1.5 cuft and 3 chambers at 1.6 cuft). If I decide to go with your design over mine, I will give you props and throw a little prop cash your way for your time and effort. One of my designs I have is just a straight forward, SIX subs facing forward. (3) on top and (3) on bottom. The box will be 30" tall and 48" in length. The depth will be according to the final outcome ratio of 1.5cuft per enclosure. Nothing fancy, just staight forward..
Someone suggested firing ALL SIX subs down at the floor. How he envisioned it, is up to anyone? I'm sure it would sound ok but it would be hard to see if all (6) subs were firing properly.. hmmmm. Anyway, I'm very excited to be sharing this build in my F150 with others in the best F150 community on the net!
08-10-2012, 10:43 PM
#19
Senior Member
Had a wonderful discussion with the senior Polk Audio technical advisor / technician (Mr. K. Jasper) on their Polk Audio MM1540 sub. Learned a few things about this specific sub and based on his advise, it's going to be full speed ahead. I am going to attempt to do a good job on keeping this build up to date with everything I do (including pictures). Everyone likes to judge pics, so this build is no different. I told Mr. Jasper that I would be forwarding this build log to him at Polk Audio and when I explained that I had TWO of their Polk Audio MM series 10's already in place and was going to be installing SIX additional MM series 15's with TWO more of their amplifiers, he seemed genuinely excited about keeping the updates coming + the final end result.
I have two designs of the sub layout / box design but anyone with a program who would be interested in playing around with a design, I am open to your design. There are a few criteria that I cannot deviate from:
- I will not go "only" FOUR 15's or increase it to EIGHT 15's. SIX 15's.
- I cannot / will not consider a full wall where I can't see out of my back window.
- I will not consider additional amplifiers or different types of subs.
- This build is NOT for SPL. Please, no bandpass or ported enclosurers. Sealed only. This is not a competition vehicle and it will be primarily used for SQ.
- After speaker to the developer of this sub, he insists that 1.5 cuft is the EXACT amount of VAS for their sub.
- Anything more than 1.6 cuft or less than 1.5 cuft, is not acceptable.
The speakers will be SVC and (3) 15's will be running on one amplifer and the other (3) on the other amplifier. I will running a 1.3 ohm load. The amp's might be a bit warm so I will need to run some type of active cooling on them.
Here are my TOTAL dimensions that I cannot exceed:
Length - 48 inches
Width - 20 inches
Height - ??? Anywhere from 24 inches to a maximum of 30 inches is acceptable
* Each sub will need to have its' own sealed chamber. I prefer to have ALL SIX chambers equal (not 3 chambers at 1.5 cuft and 3 chambers at 1.6 cuft). If I decide to go with your design over mine, I will give you props and throw a little prop cash your way for your time and effort. One of my designs I have is just a straight forward, SIX subs facing forward. (3) on top and (3) on bottom. The box will be 30" tall and 48" in length. The depth will be according to the final outcome ratio of 1.5cuft per enclosure. Nothing fancy, just staight forward..
Someone suggested firing ALL SIX subs down at the floor. How he envisioned it, is up to anyone? I'm sure it would sound ok but it would be hard to see if all (6) subs were firing properly.. hmmmm. Anyway, I'm very excited to be sharing this build in my F150 with others in the best F150 community on the net!
I have two designs of the sub layout / box design but anyone with a program who would be interested in playing around with a design, I am open to your design. There are a few criteria that I cannot deviate from:
- I will not go "only" FOUR 15's or increase it to EIGHT 15's. SIX 15's.
- I cannot / will not consider a full wall where I can't see out of my back window.
- I will not consider additional amplifiers or different types of subs.
- This build is NOT for SPL. Please, no bandpass or ported enclosurers. Sealed only. This is not a competition vehicle and it will be primarily used for SQ.
- After speaker to the developer of this sub, he insists that 1.5 cuft is the EXACT amount of VAS for their sub.
- Anything more than 1.6 cuft or less than 1.5 cuft, is not acceptable.
The speakers will be SVC and (3) 15's will be running on one amplifer and the other (3) on the other amplifier. I will running a 1.3 ohm load. The amp's might be a bit warm so I will need to run some type of active cooling on them.
Here are my TOTAL dimensions that I cannot exceed:
Length - 48 inches
Width - 20 inches
Height - ??? Anywhere from 24 inches to a maximum of 30 inches is acceptable
* Each sub will need to have its' own sealed chamber. I prefer to have ALL SIX chambers equal (not 3 chambers at 1.5 cuft and 3 chambers at 1.6 cuft). If I decide to go with your design over mine, I will give you props and throw a little prop cash your way for your time and effort. One of my designs I have is just a straight forward, SIX subs facing forward. (3) on top and (3) on bottom. The box will be 30" tall and 48" in length. The depth will be according to the final outcome ratio of 1.5cuft per enclosure. Nothing fancy, just staight forward..
Someone suggested firing ALL SIX subs down at the floor. How he envisioned it, is up to anyone? I'm sure it would sound ok but it would be hard to see if all (6) subs were firing properly.. hmmmm. Anyway, I'm very excited to be sharing this build in my F150 with others in the best F150 community on the net!
08-11-2012, 11:10 PM
#20
As for you, how's your progress coming along?