Originally Posted by SCrewYou
(Post 5689610)
not sure where youre getting your data from. as of 2014 (newest year on record) iihs small four door cars fatality rate have the chevy cruze at 42 out of an exposure of 2,220,302 and the hyundai elantra at 44 out of an exposure 1,509,235. compare that to the subaru impreza, which has a rate of 54 out of an exposure of only 117,068 and the ford focus with a death rate of 68 out of an exposure of 1,000,942.
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/driver-death-rates That same website also shows that a bunch of cars and small SUVs (including 4 Mercedes on a list of 21) that had the lowest fatality rate in accidents, while the highest fatality rate goes to Hyundai, Kia, Scion, and Chevy (Hyundai having 3 on a list of 21). It's not completely fair to compare Cruze and Elantra to an Impreza and a Focus when you consider the Impreza and Focus have sporty models with a rally pedigree. I guarantee that the later two's higher fatality rate was due to excessive speeding / racing. Of course there's good examples and bad examples within every manufacturer. |
Originally Posted by MyNameIdeasWereTaken
(Post 5689943)
It's not completely fair to compare Cruze and Elantra to an Impreza and a Focus when you consider the Impreza and Focus have sporty models with a rally pedigree. I guarantee that the later two's higher fatality rate was due to excessive speeding / racing. Of course there's good examples and bad examples within every manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by SCrewYou
(Post 5689961)
ill give you that on the impreza, as its a low volume car all together and the sti could have skewed the results. the focus however, was only counting the 2011-2014 model years, the st didnt go on sale until 2013 and was a low volume model so i doubt it had a big impact on the results (the sample size was over 1,000,000 cars). the rs wasnt counted in the results, since it wasnt on sale yet.
Either way, size isn't the only factor in vehicular safety and the new Ranger was properly named as a Ranger. :turned: |
I don't know about stats, but I do know that a focus and a f-150 met here about 4 days ago, the f-150 driver was treated and released, they buried the 3 occupants of the focus yesterday. Now there's some real life stats for you.
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Originally Posted by ZeroTX
(Post 5689540)
Overall length? Cab height? If it's comparable to the current Colorado and Tacoma, then it's a lot bigger. Also, none of these mid-sizes are offering a single cab truck anymore.
No matter, I am just glad I went with the F150, because for a while I was kinda waiting on the F100 that would never be... IIRC, overall wheelbase, bed length, legroom and headroom was about the same on the outgoing Ranger compared to the Tocoma, Frontier and Colorado. The only real dimensional difference was width, where the midsized were around 4" wider. |
Originally Posted by UncleG
(Post 5689840)
I don't know of a "crappy v6" in any Ranger. HP doesn't make a good engine. Reliability and longevity does.
But Ford did put a crappy engine in the Ranger. I had the 3.0 V6 for 18 months, it was nothing but trouble and underpowered to boot. I'd have traded it back for my 2.9 V6 in a heartbeat. I've never owned a car/truck for that short of period of time, but the 3.0 was that much of a turd I sold it as soon as I had enough to get something else. I'd love to know how many hours I spent troubleshooting and working on that thing, all engine related too. After that I had the 4.0 OHV, which like I said was a relatively good engine. Not much hp, but it was torquey and did well as a small truck engine. |
The only reason I have a f150 instead of a Colorado/Canyon, Tacoma or Frontier is tow capacity. The tongue weight and GVW on my small TT is too high for either of them.
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Originally Posted by UncleG
(Post 5689840)
I don't know of a "crappy v6" in any Ranger. HP doesn't make a good engine. Reliability and longevity does.
However, back in the days of the Ford 4.0 V6 and Jeep 4.0 I-6, both of those engines became legendary because everything else on the market was actually worse. I, too, came to this F-150 I'm in from a 2013 Nissan Frontier CC 4x4 and as far as Nissan goes, they had their fair share of issues. The payload was miserable. The rear ends were prone to failure. And the paint was razor thin and would scratch if you even looked at it the wrong way. |
I wish they would spend their time on making a more affordable truck instead of adding a new line. Truck prices are outrageous
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Originally Posted by WXman
(Post 5690088)
I, too, came to this F-150 I'm in from a 2013 Nissan Frontier CC 4x4 and as far as Nissan goes, they had their fair share of issues. The payload was miserable. The rear ends were prone to failure. And the paint was razor thin and would scratch if you even looked at it the wrong way. IIRC my payload was right around 1,100 lbs on my 2005. I know that after having just at 2,000 of sand in my Ranger, and the same amount of gravel in the Frontier that the Frontier handled the weight way better. I never had a problem with the paint, I even off-roaded it quite a bit on tight trails and never did get that many "kentucky pinstripes". |
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