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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bubbabud
Geez just tank up and try it. Not a life rendering deciesion
Lol, indeed.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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https://www.f150forum.com/search.php?searchid=3853417

Try using the advanced search. With practice it is much better.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ABN Panzer
^ Thanks.... stick around for a while and you will see how worthless the Search function is here many times.

If the question bothers you that much... how about just moving on.
I'll second that. Just tried looking for the treads on seat covers that I know are here, but type in "seat cover" or "seat" and everything but seat covers pop up.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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Try it this way.

Click on the search and then click on advanced search in blue just below the search box.

Type in your key words. hint if it is multiple words where the order is important enclose them in quotes.

Then decide whether you want to look at thread titles only or entire post.
It is the drop down box right below where you type your key words.
I suggest that you start with titles, as entire post would include any mention of a seat cover. That is a lot to dig through.

Then to the lower right select where on the forum you want to search. Default is the whole forum. Example you can look at just the late model area by clicking on it.

Here are results for “seat covers” this way. Hope this helps you find what you are looking for. If you type "seat cover" you get different results.


https://www.f150forum.com/search.php?searchid=3853513


Sorry, having a bad morning. The advanced search works but, it takes a little time to get good with it. I agree the standard search stinks. SultanGris I like your alum front end.


By the way I hate E85. I think of it as a giant scam in a NA engine. With a high boost turbo with high compression it can actually be tuned to be more fuel efficient than gas. Problem is that the car can not run regular gas then because it would require racing or aviation fuel to prevent knocking/detonation. Ford did it with a highly modified stang a few years ago and saab has tested the 95 this way.

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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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I'd never buy a vehicle the supports E85 or any type of Ethanol derived from the food we eat. E85 has caused a significant increase in the cost of corn which means we all pay more now for a lot of the corn based food we eat. Any fuel form Ethanol should be outlawed. Sorry doesn't answer your question, rant done!
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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Its not driving up the cost of food, corn yields are at record highs and go up every year. The reason food is going up is because there have been major droughts and floods in food producing areas, not to mention the Chinese are becoming richer and buying more food. Lots of the corn they use for ethanol is unsuitable for food use and the stuff that is actually yields a higher quality animal feed after its been processed for ethanol. I'll grant you its not the most efficient means of fuel, but technology is always improving and the goal is to eventually make ethanol out of something more efficient like they do in Brazil. Thats one reason I won't be buying an ecoboost, its not flex fuel. When they do get ethanol to be a cost effective alternative to gas I don't want to be stuck without the ability to utilize it. Who knows, if Iran nukes Israel gas might hit 10$ and ethanol might start looking pretty good, lol!
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SultanGris
Its not driving up the cost of food, corn yields are at record highs and go up every year. The reason food is going up is because there have been major droughts and floods in food producing areas, not to mention the Chinese are becoming richer and buying more food. Lots of the corn they use for ethanol is unsuitable for food use and the stuff that is actually yields a higher quality animal feed after its been processed for ethanol. I'll grant you its not the most efficient means of fuel, but technology is always improving and the goal is to eventually make ethanol out of something more efficient like they do in Brazil. Thats one reason I won't be buying an ecoboost, its not flex fuel. When they do get ethanol to be a cost effective alternative to gas I don't want to be stuck without the ability to utilize it. Who knows, if Iran nukes Israel gas might hit 10$ and ethanol might start looking pretty good, lol!

The argument about food not going up because of ethanol production doesn't wash. It was predicted and then charted. The acreage given over to corn for ethanol production could have been used for food and feed production, but it isn't.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...corn-low_N.htm

and that's an unbiased article. The partisan articles aren't so kindl

This discussion has been had many times on this board, opinions don't change. You can have your opinions, but please don't spread opinion (ethanol production doesn't increase food prices) as fact.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 04:50 PM
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I guess floods and droughts and other nations buying more grain than previous years have nothing at all to do with food prices going up, lol, get a clue and don't believe all the propaganda you read. I'm not saying ethanol is awesome, but its impact on food prices is miniscule at best.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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TO sum up the argument:

If you're a farmer, or live in a farm belt area, ethanol= good.

A fair % of the rest of us don't buy the argument, it's junk science at it's pure fertilizer level, but there are too many ag belt senators and congressmen to get reality introduced into the discussion.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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then dont buy it if you dont like it, You dont have to lie about it and blame the cost of food increase on it when its effects on food price is minimal at best. In your defense its highly unlikely youve heard about all the droughts and floods in major growing areas being a non farmer, but surely youve head about the record heat and drought in russia a few years back, droughts in texas and the south, floods in the northern central usa, Australia and south america also have had serious non normal problems the last couple of years also. Those events greatly affects production and therefore the price. Its silly and non factual to blame it on ethanol. I wont say it has zero effect, but its way smaller than the opponents to ethanol like to make it out to be. The latest number I can find is that around 36% of total corn production was used for ethanol in 2010, but dont forget that 1/3 or more of that becomes a higher quality animal feed than raw corn, and also dont forget that corn yields are at record highs and have been increasing every year due to new hybrids growing practices. Ethanol also reduces carbon monoxide emissions by up to 30%. Demand for corn is expected to drop by 50 million bushels this year. But its all been discussed numerous times in the numerous threads about it.
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