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Old 11-01-2018, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackpony
Here is how I mounted mine. Bought a kydex holster, drilled a couple holes and secured with nuts and bolts. Easily accecssible if I ever need it, easy in and out of my holsters, and with me in the driver seat its about 95% hidden to anyone. You have to stick your head inside of the driver window and look down to see it.
This pic made me cringe .. its way too much awareness and memory to have your gun in this position .. all it takes is one time you're getting gas and forget its sitting there and you have the door open and someone runs up and grabs it.. or any point in time you enter or exit the truck and someone saw it sitting there and breaks your windows and steals it and kills someone
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Originally Posted by ABF150Fan
I find it rather amusing reading posts like these. I’ve been a LEO for 8 years now and I not often needed my firearm. Never shot it other than training. And I run towards the danger every shift.

How many people really need a hand gun or should have a hand gun. I rarely ever hear of someone needing a gun and using it properly when something happens. Usually its just the opposite.

Anyhow rant over. Good luck!



from age 10 - 18 i carried a condom in my wallet and rarely ever used it, but you know what, in the instance a hot milf was so heart broken she wanted to take revenge on her bf and offer me sex.. i know.. in that moment.. i was ready

from age 18 - 24 before the cell phone was popular i used to carry a pen in my pocket and rarely ever used, but you know what, in that instance that some hot girl forgot her glasses and found me attractive and wanted to give me her number.. in that moment .. i was ready

until the day you are personally attached to my hip.. i will keep carrying my gun where ever i legally can

furthermore some LEO's don't like carrying guns.. they only do because they are required to.. and i see them at the range.. i have better groupings than them.. and you know what.. when i need an LEO.. those are the last people i want keeping me safe
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Originally Posted by ABF150Fan
I find it rather amusing reading posts like these. I’ve been a LEO for 8 years now and I not often needed my firearm. Never shot it other than training. And I run towards the danger every shift.

How many people really need a hand gun or should have a hand gun. I rarely ever hear of someone needing a gun and using it properly when something happens. Usually its just the opposite.

Anyhow rant over. Good luck!

Watching local LEO at a nearby range on the Atlanta southside, I've often said that the safest place to be when the cops start shooting is in their sights. Their firearm handling is so bad I quit going to that range out of fear for my own safety.

Re "need a hand gun": This leads me to question if you really are a cop. Any real cop knows two things: Firearms are a force equalizer, taking physical size (and to a degree numbers) out of the equation when an attacker strikes. Second would be (and I'm sure you've given this speech too) that it isn't the job of the police to protect someone from an assault, only to investigate and arrest afterward. When the police start giving full escort upon request I'll be happy to stand down, but until then suggest you stick to supporting and protecting our constitutional rights rather than vocalizing opposition to them.

EDIT: And since we are talking about whether someone should have a "need" to exercise a constitutional right, I've rephrased a piece of what you said. "How many people really need to say what they believe or should be allowed to?" You see, once we allow people to start crapping on our rights, who gets to decide which ones get crapped on? Which brings us right back to the purpose of the 2nd amendment from the beginning.

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Watching local LEO at a nearby range on the Atlanta southside, I've often said that the safest place to be when the cops start shooting is in their sights. Their firearm handling is so bad I quit going to that range out of fear for my own safety.

Re "need a hand gun": This leads me to question if you really are a cop. Any real cop knows two things: Firearms are a force equalizer, taking physical size (and to a degree numbers) out of the equation when an attacker strikes. Second would be (and I'm sure you've given this speech too) that it isn't the job of the police to protect someone from an assault, only to investigate and arrest afterward. When the police start giving full escort upon request I'll be happy to stand down, but until then suggest you stick to supporting and protecting our constitutional rights rather than vocalizing opposition to them.
that's funny.. i just posted this similar thing.. I can believe he is an LEO .. a lot of them feel this way.. they don't feel citizens should carry guns..
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Originally Posted by ABF150Fan
I find it rather amusing reading posts like these. I’ve been a LEO for 8 years now and I not often needed my firearm. Never shot it other than training. And I run towards the danger every shift.

How many people really need a hand gun or should have a hand gun. I rarely ever hear of someone needing a gun and using it properly when something happens. Usually its just the opposite.

Anyhow rant over. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe
and i see them at the range.. i have better groupings than them.. and you know what.. when i need an LEO.. those are the last people i want keeping me safe
That is a very myopic attitude.
Having to shoot someone is such a small part of what an officer may encounter on the job, that most (not just a lot, but most....like 95%) police never have to shoot at anyone.
Why? Because they have training and other tools to use. You have your gun...so if someone scares you, you might just go ahead an shoot them because that is your only tool.
Police are trained to do many other things in different situations SO they DON'T have to shoot someone. Apples and oranges.

I'm glad they are better at negotiating and helping folks....rather than just show up and lay out a bunch of perfect head-shots...

Shot placement is easy when you are only being attacked by paper. I'm also an excellent shot when it comes to poking holes in paper.
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Originally Posted by Kingofwylietx
That is a very myopic attitude.
Having to shoot someone is such a small part of what an officer may encounter on the job, that most (not just a lot, but most....like 95%) police never have to shoot at anyone.
Why? Because they have training and other tools to use. You have your gun...so if someone scares you, you might just go ahead an shoot them because that is your only tool.
Police are trained to do many other things in different situations SO they DON'T have to shoot someone. Apples and oranges.

I'm glad they are better at negotiating and helping folks....rather than just show up and lay out a bunch of perfect head-shots...

Shot placement is easy when you are only being attacked by paper. I'm also an excellent shot when it comes to poking holes in paper.
see the difference is i didn't say i didn't feel uncomfortable with ALL LEO's .. i'm uncomfortable with the ones who can't shoot on paper.. so by your statement.. if they can't even shoot on paper .. why would i expect them to protect me from another person? maybe the last part of my statement wasn't clear and sounded like any LEO
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Originally Posted by ABF150Fan
I find it rather amusing reading posts like these. I’ve been a LEO for 8 years now and I not often needed my firearm. Never shot it other than training. And I run towards the danger every shift.

How many people really need a hand gun or should have a hand gun. I rarely ever hear of someone needing a gun and using it properly when something happens. Usually its just the opposite.

Anyhow rant over. Good luck!


Hope I never need a handgun. But the chances of having any LEO's next to me 24/7 is ZERO. I prefer to be able to protect myself and my family if the need ever arises. Same reason I buy insurance.
Oh, and I know how to use it as well. Just ask the steel gongs hanging across the lake outside my back door, they get "rung" often from the back porch after I drink my coffee.

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I'll add what works for me and maybe it will help someone. I always carry a snub nose stainless revolver in our vehicles. In my F150 it is a Ruger 5 shot .357 mag with a 2.25 inch barrel. It fits nicely inside a soft, thin neoprene holster than fits nicely inside the console. I like revolvers for the truck and the house due to the fact they are idiot proof and unlikely to jam. And my wife is more comfortable with them as well.
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Originally Posted by RandyinTN
I'll add what works for me and maybe it will help someone. I always carry a snub nose stainless revolver in our vehicles. In my F150 it is a Ruger 5 shot .357 mag with a 2.25 inch barrel. It fits nicely inside a soft, thin neoprene holster than fits nicely inside the console. I like revolvers for the truck and the house due to the fact they are idiot proof and unlikely to jam. And my wife is more comfortable with them as well.
That is exactly why my MRS carries a revolver in her purse. They simply will not jam. Her purse is such that she can hold in a one handed firing stance while it is still in the purse. That is also the position she most practices firing from. My daughter carries a Ruger .357 and the MRS a Smith .357 Airlite.


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