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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 11:06 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I wonder why Dealer acts so baffled and doesn't know what to do?
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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott91370
I'm going to say that even though the sand is soft the tires are not turning at the same speed. One or more tires are getting the grip and other(s) are spinning. Similar to trying to turn on dry pavement.
I have had many other 4WD vehicles (Jeep Wrangler, GMC Yukon, etc.) on this same beach over many years and never had this issue.
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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by marshallr
It sounds like the chain in the transfer case is stretched and is slipping when under load. That is what happens when you drive in 4X4 while on road surfaces with good traction. There are a lot of people who come on these forums and will tell you it is OK to drive in 4X4 on pavement. It is not. BTDT and paid the bill to have transfer case rebuilt.

The damage is cumulative and it doesn't break all at once. But parts wear out gradually. Often, as in your case, it is the next owner who gets to pay the bill.

You can see the internals here. When the driveline is under stress something has to give. Sometimes parts break, sometimes they stretch. Once the chain stretches it will start to slip over the cogs when under a load.

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Thanks for the reply. Why would transfer case chain not slip when I run in reverse in 4WD? As I mentioned, just to test truck out I ran in reverse on beach in 4WD for way longer than would ever need to and no issue at all. 4WD system worked perfectly in reverse.


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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wic33
Thanks for the reply. Why would transfer case chain not slip when I run in reverse in 4WD? As I mentioned, just to test truck out I ran in reverse on beach in 4WD for way longer than would ever need to and no issue at all. 4WD system worked perfectly in reverse.
Probably because when it's used in drive the faces of the gear and chain mating surfaces wear out. Since you rarely drive in reverse, those surfaces don't wear out, so the chain doesn't slip.
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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wilit
Probably because when it's used in drive the faces of the gear and chain mating surfaces wear out. Since you rarely drive in reverse, those surfaces don't wear out, so the chain doesn't slip.
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 10:17 AM
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Update...Dealer has finally gotten approval to replace transfer case. I will post again once job is complete and if this resolved the issue.
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 12:52 PM
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Good to hear
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wilit
Probably because when it's used in drive the faces of the gear and chain mating surfaces wear out. Since you rarely drive in reverse, those surfaces don't wear out, so the chain doesn't slip.
Yes, yes, yes. You can see this in motorcycles and bikes. The chainrings and cassette rings on bikes are made so you can't turn them around. Back side of all the chainring teeth look great, but the front side have worn in, you have to replace. It's the opposite at the cassette, backside wears in while the front of the teeth are still in perfect condition.
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 11:00 AM
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Frustrated to report that new transfer case did NOT fix the problem. Still horrible banging noise coming from from from while in 4WD running on beach under load/stress.

To repeat issue, this does not happen when in 4WD under light load/low stress thus dealer can't replicate it. Also, this does not happen when in 4WD driving in reverse even on same beach for extended period.

Anyone else have any ideas?
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 11:26 AM
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That's pretty bad. There was a guy a year or two ago who found that his differential gears were broken. Have you had the diff cover off?
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