News reports that Ford is being encouraged to recall 2011-2017 Explorers due to concerns of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Ford announced it is offering free inspections and repairs to reduce the potential for exhaust to enter vehicles.

I have developed the propane smell likely linked to cat converter in my 2010 Screw. If I'm smelling that in the cab ... and the fact that carbon monoxide is the odorless killer, I'm concerned that something is going on with my F150.

Anyone like to comment on the Explorer? I'm thinking that I'd like a free inspection on my truck.

 

The tail pipe is a lot closer to the cab of an Explorer than our trucks, we have an entire bed of separation between the two, the concern with Explorers is mainly due to them sitting idling for long periods of time such as police work calls for. Your rotten egg smell is likely caused by an incorrect A/F mixture and or a worn out catalytic convertor.
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For the explorers, inspecting the civillian ones is more of a goodwill gesture. The real problem lies with the Interceptor utility (Explorer police interceptor). There are extra holes and ports drilled for the wiring harnesses and modifications that some agencies dont end up using, leaving holes in the body where carbon monoxide can enter. We just brought our fleet in.

I dont see the f150 being involved, except perhaps maybe the f-150 SSV's and expedition ssv's.. So maybe?

 

Yes, but it has been noted that if you smell the "sulfur" smell, it contains high levels of carbon monoxide as stated by a toxicologist. I have a 2016 Explorer with the NA 3.5 and its going in with my dealer as soon as they can after Nov 1st. We get the sulfur smell under hard acceleration regardless of HVAC settings. I am on the Explorer Forum and have even filed my complaint months ago with NHTSA. One theory is also hairline cracks in the exhaust manifold, the 2 HVAC vents at the rear of the vehicle, the 3 drain holes in the bottom of the liftgate and the liftgate seal.

 

You're not familiar with 5 gas analysis. I am.
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Okay, good. This thread isn't about how smart you are, last I checked.

 

What toxicologist is that? I think hes been sniffing a little more then exhaust.

Though admittedly, if you can smell eggs in the cabin, then some exhaust is getting in there.

 

No it's not and never was. The point I'm trying to convey to you is your ignorant on the process of how we propel our asses down the road and the machines that make it possible.

If you have more information on how and why it happens please enlighten the forum without insulting my intelligence on the subject unless your intent is to insult me.

If the former is the case then
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The same toxicologist that stated this:


#1. If you can smell an exhaust odor, odorless CO is also present, but CO may be present even if you do not smell exhaust, or after the smell fades. The only way to know the level of CO in a vehicle is with a professional CO detector that displays from 1ppm, and preferably one that records CO measurements automatically (called a data-logger) or at least one that records the peak CO level (which you can then recall by pressing a button). Any CO level above 0 in a vehicle is abnormal unless in heavy traffic or a tunnel, and healthy non-smokers absorb CO whenever the air has more than the 1-2ppm they normally exhale. If you can afford 2 detectors, I recommend putting one in the front seat and one in the rear, so you can determine from which end exhaust gases are entering (it could be either end or both).

#2. Do not test vehicles with home CO alarms built to UL2034 or UL2075 standards. These are worse than worthless for use in vehicles because they give a false sense of security. They do not display any CO levels below 30ppm in real time, nor do they give any CO warning below 70ppm, even though EPA average limit for public is just 9ppm. Worse still, these kind of alarms don't provide any warning until CO has been continuously over 70ppm for 1 - 4 hours at the low end or over 400ppm for 4 -15 minutes at the high end. By the time they alarm, you have already been poisoned for anywhere from 4 minutes to 4 hours.

#3. To get your Ford dealer to take you seriously, ask a passenger to use a smartphone to video the CO level your detector displays while you accelerate WOT over 45 mph with both the front and rear AC on high, all windows closed, and recirculate ON. From my testing of 2015 and 2016 Explorers, this is consistently the worst case scenario and so the only condition you need to test. To quickly lower the CO level in the cabin after testing, leave the AC on and turn recirculate OFF (or open at least 2 windows). Since Ford dealers do not have CO detectors, I recommend you test your vehicle again after anyone attempts any repairs. As long as you can detect CO entering the cabin under these conditions, the vehicle is not safe to drive.

#4. If you want to know how much CO you absorbed from your exposures while driving, you can use any professional CO detector to measure the level of CO in your tissues. You just need to hold your breath for 35 seconds before exhaling into the detector. This method is faster, more accurate and less painful than measuring COHb in blood, which is most hospitals can't even do in-house. If you do get your COHb tested, make sure they take both arterial and venous samples. Both are needed to determine if CO is being absorbed (a>v), excreted (v>a) or in equilibrium (a=v).

During CO exposure, you inhale more CO than you exhale, but afterwards, once back in fresh air, you exhale more than you inhale, until the level of CO in your blood and tissues tissues returns to healthy equilibrium. This can take days to years, depending on how much CO you absorbed, or until you are exposed to a higher level and start absorbing CO again. Symptoms like recurring headaches, chronic fatigue, brain fog, muscle pain and multi-sensory sensitivity can last as long as you have more CO in your tissues than your blood.

 

Seems par for the course, I see you arguing all day with everybody on here. Lacking something?