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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 04:54 PM
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Default Power Boost

Originally Posted by jmn333
Power boost only getting 13.9mpg
the pic used is my truck 2013 3.5Ltt.
Also beside the good gas mileage, check out the transmission temperature. 6r80 transmission thermostat delete. About 138 degrees.
96 degrees in Louisiana. Most trucks are about 194-204 degrees.
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Old Feb 2, 2026 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sdmartin65
Seems as though the calculations would include a factor for wind drag and rolling resistance.
How much of each variable?
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Old Feb 8, 2026 | 12:52 PM
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Default Great write up

And good research. My trick to know my actual MPG started 26 years ago with my first road trip to visit family 965 miles one way. I started my data collecting by first seeing how many miles I could get on 1 tank of fuel, then only fill up when I reached just under a 1/4 tank. Knowing this, and being mindful of my fuel pump as to not over stress it. The miles driven, divided by the gallons filled to a full tank with out squeezing that little more (topping off) gave me a more accurate MPG that i used to pen out the gas stations along my route on my map. So if you want s more accurate MPG, don't rely on your window sticker, do this instead.

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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 03:06 PM
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I live in Canada, and there's about a 5% difference between using winter and summer gasoline. I suspect it's because the butane used in winter has a lower energy density.
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Old Mar 24, 2026 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by avvblanc01
Every day on this site I see countless posts by users complaining that the gas mileage their trucks are getting isn't matching what the window sticker rating stated the truck would get. There is also a lot of speculation about how the EPA tests, but I have heard only a few posts that actually convey the true testing procedure. I think a lot of the confusion surrounding the ratings is rooted in the lack of understanding regarding the testing procedures that the EPA mandates. These numbers aren't calculated by actually driving the truck around a track or on the road. There would be too many variables to have repeatable results that would have a uniform procedure for all cars.

The EPA gas mileage numbers are calculated through the following procedure by each individual company and randomly verified by the EPA:

Vehicles are driven on a dynamometer in a controlled laboratory setting (in order to eliminate weather and road variables). Both city and highway driving are simulated.

The city test is a 7.5 mile trip lasting 23 minutes with 18 stops, at an average of about 20mph. About 4 minutes are spent idling (as at a traffic light), and a short freeway segment is included. The vehicle begins the test after being parked overnight at about 72˚F.

The highway test is a 10 mile trip with an average speed of about 48mph. The test is initiated with a warm engine (following the city test), and is conducted with no stops and very little idling.

In 2008, the EPA also added three new tests. these included:
1) A high speed test (still only averaging 48.37 mph but now including a few short spans reaching 80mph.
2) an air conditioning test, where the ambient temperature around the vehicle is increased, the AC is turned on, and the vehicle averages 21.2mph.
3) A cold temperature test, where the vehicle is cold started in a lab that is 20˚F and driven an average of 21.2 mph.
graphs of each test can be located here

In the real world, one needs to factor in weight changes based on packages, wind, road surface, tires, gears, aerodynamics of different packages... the list goes on. All of these things change depending on the vehicle configuration you buy or the environment you drive in. It would be impossible for ford or any other company to test each package and give results accordingly (if you've used ford's online builder you know just how many combinations there are). Ultimately, the testing procedures should probably change to reflect a more realistic view of driving (mainly speed) but for now, I would just like to hopefully clear up how the results are actually obtained. Please feel free to add anything else you know as I am not the end all source on this subject! Hopefully this post will be informative to people and help to clear up some of the debate. In the end, people need to understand that the results from the EPA are not a guaranteed rating for real world driving and that it is unrealistic to expect to obtain them on a daily basis. Instead just go out and enjoy your awesome trucks and stop complaining about the numbers!
Actually they do drive trucks out on real roads not just in a controlled environment, I have 2 relatives that work for Ford that can confirm this. Lastly it's an average not every truck will do the estimated MPG some do better some worse
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Old Mar 25, 2026 | 12:28 PM
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Default Powerboost factors electric miles into MPG

On my 2024 Lariat Supercrew w/shorted. I've never come close to the 23 MPG it's supposed to get. Additionally, the calculated MPG that the truck calculates includes the "electric" miles into the calculation, i.e. total miles (including electric miles) divided by gas used = mpg. On average approx 25%-30% of my miles are electric and I average a total of 550-575 miles per tank (ave 26-27 gal per fillup).
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