mike243

I hate that it happened but it could be any of us here,when you buy used you take a chance,miles mean nothing imo. A engineer is about the only person that could say with a lot of testing and back ground that it was a casting problem and not some thing else.Sure some body could look at it and say it looks flawed but looks don't always equate to a bad part,casting any product is the cheaper way to make parts where looks don't matter very much,integrity of the metal is where its at. I will keep driving all 3 of my fords and all are out of warranty and I may cry about them breaking but in the end its my cars and trucks and not fords responsibility to repair them for ever,I have seen signs giving life time warranty on new car and trucks but not impressed enuf to buy 1 lol

Nyron

Perhaps, however, I remember when the EcoBoost was first being put into the F-150. There was a video that essentially showed that they torture tested it and it held up for 150,000k miles. I am not sure if it was a Ford Certified used vehicle but they also tout how they go over the vehicle with a fine tooth comb.

I guess the bottom line is that if you advertise quality and longevity, you should probably deliver. However, this is par for the course with almost all companies today.

Boulevard

The other manufactures really aren't any better but FORD should recognize that it is easier to lose a customer than it is to make a new one. Not that they care the U.S. government will just bail them out anyway so there really is no incentive for FORD to do a better job, or care for that matter.

Fix the truck and get ride of the truck because the problems will just keep on coming.

I have been a loyal FORD customer for over 15 years and my wife and I trade in a vehicle every 2-3 years so we have seen a lot of FORD product but the quality of the new build stuff is getting really bad. Junk to be honest. How can I say this, you ask? A week ago my wife's car gave out and we made the mistake of trying a TOYOTA. I will never buy another FORD. The TOYOTA wasn't just a little bit better it was a ****load better. I now have a FORD and a TOYOTA in my driveway and no one wants to drive the FORD.

I am not saying that TOYOTA would do you any better as far as your problems go and I am not saying that companies such a TOYOTA are perfect, they do have problems, but I will say that FORD quality is well below what is being offered by the other manufacturers and everyone knows that quality and longevity go hand in hand.

GMW468

Many years ago my wife bought a brand new 98 Gran Prix GTP (supercharged 3.8 V6). For the times it was a great car. The supercharged V6 had some serious power and it was the top of the line model so for 1998 it had ALL the bells and whistles. But it was a frigging lemon. We had SO many issues with that car that I considered calling a lawyer. Granted some of them were under warranty but warranty doesn't always cover alternative transportation. Having a warranty is great, having a ride to work is even better. I did write a letter to GM stating that my family and I were loyal GM customers dating back to my grandfather buying his first ever new car in 1955.....a 55 Chevy. My dad bought his first ever new car from GM in a 1960 Corvette. I got a form letter back that basically said tough crap. That's when I knew that GM would NEVER get another penny of my money.

That frigging Gran Prix was such a POS that after a few years we decided to get rid of it and move on to something else. Believe it or not my wife is a person who really likes power in her vehicle. She wanted something powerful like the Gran Prix but not a POS. Her desire for power and reliability led us to a Subaru dealership to check out a new 2002 WRX wagon. For her it was the best of both worlds. She was pregnant with our first so Subaru's 5 star crash rating was impressive, the 4cyl turbo motor was good on gas yet had power when she needed to merge into traffic and believe it or not Subaru's AWD system would go through snow that would shut down many a larger SUV.

She owned that WRX for 12 years and put 168,000 miles on it without a single issue. Brakes, tires, and oil changes were a given and a timing belt/water pump replacement at 105K miles but that was it. It was really incredible how dead nuts reliable that car was. 2 years ago when we decided that at 12 years old and with 168,000 miles that it was time for the WRX to go to another owner, we never even considered GM. Their **** poor handling of our Gran Prix issues cost them a customer for life. So Ford may think that they are saving a few bucks by telling the OP tough crap, but in the long run losing a customer for life is far worse.

Boulevard

FORD did not lose 1 customer at my house they lost 4. My wife and I will not buy another FORD and my 2 sons have already said that they want suby's.

Nyron

That was about the time I began looking at the WRX after a friend had suggested one. I went out and test drove it and was floored. I drove an Impreza for around 60k miles and my wife has a current one that has 28k on it. There hasn't been 1 issue. Just crazy quality and reliability. I just wish Subaru had a vehicle that could really tow a decent camper. If so then my F-150 would be gone, lol.

idrive

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It's a vicious circle.

It happens to every brand. Perhaps some more than others but mechanical things break down even though the majority expect them to last forever, serviced properly or not.

GMW468

There's a difference though. Look I'm a car guy. I've built a Musclecar from the ground up with my own 2 hands. The only thing I farmed out was final prep for paint and the actual paint job itself. Everything else was done by me.

I fully realize that mechanical things go down, however when I pay good money for a vehicle and it has numerous, numerous issues before I've even paid it off, I have a problem.

Having a motor blow up at 66k miles is unacceptable. Especially if it is a design flaw.

idrive

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It seems you've gone off topic. you're the first one to mention a "design flaw." That's not what we're talking about. OP says they've been informed this was a "forging defect." As a car guy you know that not every part is made perfect. OEM or aftermarket. There are more than a few (several thousand) of these motors out there with well over 100K miles.

Who knows if this motor wasn't abused? Was or wasn't maintained. It was purchased used.

Still happens to every brand to some extent. There is no perfect motor/car.

GMW468

OK well then let me use the word of your choosing....a forging defect. So Ford installed a defective part into one of their engines. To me, that's unacceptable. Either Ford or the piston manufacturer should have some of the blame. I'm not saying that they should replace the motor free of charge but by installing a defective part into his truck, they have shown negligence and a lack of quality control.