Dealer says 14mpg mixed is normal this time of year
01-09-2018, 02:41 PM
#81
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haha, my wife get worse mpg than me anything she drives! Apparently the gas/brake pedals are on/off switches..i.e. they are all the way on, or they are off
01-09-2018, 02:59 PM
#82
I think what hurts a lot of EcoBoost owners...is the boost. Once you get into that sweet, sweet turbo...it's hard to stay out...lol
01-09-2018, 03:38 PM
#83
I really get chaffed when posts rib folks for questioning fuel mileage on their truck. First, its a stated and documented factor in the specs of the truck Folks have every expectation to something close to that number if using the same standard. Everything about truck buying is specs. Weight, capacities, Torque, fuel type. It all matters. Maybe some specs matter more to one person than another, but its the pursuit of and buyer expectations that drive our beloved trucks into becoming an engineered marvel compared to only a few years ago.
The argument thats its a 5000 brick is weak and misguided. These trucks actually have better aerodynamics than some sports-cars of the early 90's. It's called science and engineering. Thats why my 5000 lb 2,7 went from Glen Rose Texas, to Port Vincent Louisiana (512 miles), at 75-80 MPH one no refuel of my tiny 22 usable gallon tank with plenty left over (i used 19.6 gallons). I did the math (manually for you sticklers) and I got over 26 mpg avg. My coworker made the exact trip in an identical truck( we use a fleet), Identical engine size and gearing, He got 19 MPG and had to refuel. The concern is valid to question why one truck gets such a different mileage over another in similar conditions. OR to question why some conditions make the same truck vary so wildly.
There are those to will happily accept poor mileage, sometimes worse mileage than an older less efficient truck, and chalk it up to "its a truck get over it"
For the rest of us we will continue to push efficiencies so we can take fuel costs, and convert them to payments for a better trim level, more towing power or a safer ride.
I'll finish by stating this, since these threads live on for years. Some day soon the fuel costs will go back up; and probably significantly. Those of us who need a truck, or even want one, will be glad we sought out every MPG we can get.
The argument thats its a 5000 brick is weak and misguided. These trucks actually have better aerodynamics than some sports-cars of the early 90's. It's called science and engineering. Thats why my 5000 lb 2,7 went from Glen Rose Texas, to Port Vincent Louisiana (512 miles), at 75-80 MPH one no refuel of my tiny 22 usable gallon tank with plenty left over (i used 19.6 gallons). I did the math (manually for you sticklers) and I got over 26 mpg avg. My coworker made the exact trip in an identical truck( we use a fleet), Identical engine size and gearing, He got 19 MPG and had to refuel. The concern is valid to question why one truck gets such a different mileage over another in similar conditions. OR to question why some conditions make the same truck vary so wildly.
There are those to will happily accept poor mileage, sometimes worse mileage than an older less efficient truck, and chalk it up to "its a truck get over it"
For the rest of us we will continue to push efficiencies so we can take fuel costs, and convert them to payments for a better trim level, more towing power or a safer ride.
I'll finish by stating this, since these threads live on for years. Some day soon the fuel costs will go back up; and probably significantly. Those of us who need a truck, or even want one, will be glad we sought out every MPG we can get.
It seems whenever I drive a car I can often exceed the EPA ratings. My IS300 that I drove at 80 on the highway and thrashed on the backroads regularly got me 1 mpg over the EPA highway rating. The Prius I had for 10 days as a rental got 3 mpg over the EPA rating. The Corolla I drove for a weekend matched the EPA rating. Even my wife's CRV, rated at 26 mpg highway, regularly calculates at 25 mpg in mixed driving regardless of which one of us is driving it. But of the 5 trucks I've owned, none of them have even come close, even when used as commuters.
01-09-2018, 05:27 PM
#84
Senior Member
Thanks, I agree the "it's a truck" comments do get annoying real fast, and they aren't at all helpful. I don't think any of us assumed these things would get 30 mpg, but when the EPA ratings become a joke because they are so far off from the real world there clearly is a problem.
It seems whenever I drive a car I can often exceed the EPA ratings. My IS300 that I drove at 80 on the highway and thrashed on the backroads regularly got me 1 mpg over the EPA highway rating. The Prius I had for 10 days as a rental got 3 mpg over the EPA rating. The Corolla I drove for a weekend matched the EPA rating. Even my wife's CRV, rated at 26 mpg highway, regularly calculates at 25 mpg in mixed driving regardless of which one of us is driving it. But of the 5 trucks I've owned, none of them have even come close, even when used as commuters.
It seems whenever I drive a car I can often exceed the EPA ratings. My IS300 that I drove at 80 on the highway and thrashed on the backroads regularly got me 1 mpg over the EPA highway rating. The Prius I had for 10 days as a rental got 3 mpg over the EPA rating. The Corolla I drove for a weekend matched the EPA rating. Even my wife's CRV, rated at 26 mpg highway, regularly calculates at 25 mpg in mixed driving regardless of which one of us is driving it. But of the 5 trucks I've owned, none of them have even come close, even when used as commuters.
01-09-2018, 06:21 PM
#85
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I have a 2016 f150 platinum 3,5 ecoboost short bed and my wife can get 18 to 20 mpg going from the farm to town on 2 lanes at 55 average all summer long.
But when we get out on the interstate going 80MPH we get around 14 depending on the wind.
Now take that same pickup and hook a 7000# 24 foot enclosed trailer and go at interstate speeds of 80MPH and the gas mileage goes down to 6 mpg depending on the wind. Drop down to 60mph with that same trailer and mileage goes up again to 10.
Pulls the trailer fine at 80mph up and down mountains but mileage really goes down
01-09-2018, 06:21 PM
#86
Senior Member
Given that most interstate speed limits are 65-75 mph, why does the EPA not test vehicles at those speeds to determine highway mileage? It would be lower, especially for high wind-resistance vehicles like our trucks, but it would also be more honest.
01-09-2018, 06:27 PM
#87
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Because then their CAFE targets would really look ludicrous, and the calibrations needed for compliance engines like the ecoboosts would shift.
01-09-2018, 06:31 PM
#88
Senior Member
most likely because the manufacturers don’t want them to? It would lower their corporate averages dramatically and the prices would go up a bunch due to the “gas guzzler “tax.
01-09-2018, 06:57 PM
#89
Senior Member
There shouldn't even be a CAFE standard. I mean, gas prices will drive people into the vehicle that makes economic sense to them. The government doesn't need to stand in the way.
That said, they should revise the program to be more realistic, and should adjust the CAFE standards accordingly, if they're going to insist on government intervention.
That said, they should revise the program to be more realistic, and should adjust the CAFE standards accordingly, if they're going to insist on government intervention.
01-09-2018, 07:10 PM
#90
Senior Member
There shouldn't even be a CAFE standard. I mean, gas prices will drive people into the vehicle that makes economic sense to them. The government doesn't need to stand in the way.
That said, they should revise the program to be more realistic, and should adjust the CAFE standards accordingly, if they're going to insist on government intervention.
That said, they should revise the program to be more realistic, and should adjust the CAFE standards accordingly, if they're going to insist on government intervention.
