Dealer Programing Charge
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Digital Trucker,
I really do appreciate it but I'm more confused now. Hopefully it's just because of this. The remote starter I got for my sister is not a FORD starter. I got it at the local car stereo store and whatever programming they did, they did there. I was gathering from djfllmn that whatever they did, it was something apart from IDS. Or, I'm wrong about what I thought djfllmn was telling me with this, "the second part was the code for the PATS. aka the coded key," with PATs being passive anti theft. I wasn't sure but I gathered I was being told the aftermarket companies have been given an access to activate their own gear that is separate or aside from the IDS access. I know how assume can be defined, none the less I assume access through PATS rather then IDS ultimately limits after market gear's ability to integrate with the truck or car. I guess I'm looking at it almost like a firewall on a computer. I'm just trying to understand it all.
I hope I haven't made it worse! haha
I really do appreciate it but I'm more confused now. Hopefully it's just because of this. The remote starter I got for my sister is not a FORD starter. I got it at the local car stereo store and whatever programming they did, they did there. I was gathering from djfllmn that whatever they did, it was something apart from IDS. Or, I'm wrong about what I thought djfllmn was telling me with this, "the second part was the code for the PATS. aka the coded key," with PATs being passive anti theft. I wasn't sure but I gathered I was being told the aftermarket companies have been given an access to activate their own gear that is separate or aside from the IDS access. I know how assume can be defined, none the less I assume access through PATS rather then IDS ultimately limits after market gear's ability to integrate with the truck or car. I guess I'm looking at it almost like a firewall on a computer. I'm just trying to understand it all.
I hope I haven't made it worse! haha
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OK. When I read this I didn't think physical, ignition key.
"the second part was the code for the PATS. aka the coded key"
I thought in terms of the key being a cipher to a code. I did some ABS work a while back and adjusting sensor parameters was done with a memory stick containing the sensor programs and laptop connected to the OBDii. It was actually the ignition key that granted access. I didn't know that.
This does raise another question for me though. I bought my truck off a friend when he was transferred. I got 3 keys and they are all hardware store copies. Should I have any concern about that?
Digitaltrucker, Wholeheartedly, thank you very much.
"the second part was the code for the PATS. aka the coded key"
I thought in terms of the key being a cipher to a code. I did some ABS work a while back and adjusting sensor parameters was done with a memory stick containing the sensor programs and laptop connected to the OBDii. It was actually the ignition key that granted access. I didn't know that.
This does raise another question for me though. I bought my truck off a friend when he was transferred. I got 3 keys and they are all hardware store copies. Should I have any concern about that?
Digitaltrucker, Wholeheartedly, thank you very much.
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Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 13,811
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From: Texas
OK. When I read this I didn't think physical, ignition key.
"the second part was the code for the PATS. aka the coded key"
I thought in terms of the key being a cipher to a code. I did some ABS work a while back and adjusting sensor parameters was done with a memory stick containing the sensor programs and laptop connected to the OBDii. It was actually the ignition key that granted access. I didn't know that.
This does raise another question for me though. I bought my truck off a friend when he was transferred. I got 3 keys and they are all hardware store copies. Should I have any concern about that?
Digitaltrucker, Wholeheartedly, thank you very much.
"the second part was the code for the PATS. aka the coded key"
I thought in terms of the key being a cipher to a code. I did some ABS work a while back and adjusting sensor parameters was done with a memory stick containing the sensor programs and laptop connected to the OBDii. It was actually the ignition key that granted access. I didn't know that.
This does raise another question for me though. I bought my truck off a friend when he was transferred. I got 3 keys and they are all hardware store copies. Should I have any concern about that?
Digitaltrucker, Wholeheartedly, thank you very much.
PS take all of your keys to the dealer!
Last edited by digitaltrucker; Jul 15, 2015 at 04:11 PM.