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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Summers22
You can run any audio app through Bluetooth......but if you insist on Android auto to play the audio through the app, you give the app full permission.
^ This.
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 11:39 AM
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^ This.
it's the dictatorship I can't stand. I haven't been forced to comply until this truck. They are worried about safety? You should take a drive behind blue cruse when the road is wet. Lol it's like a pinball machine. Google forcing total hands free bothers me. Anyway I picked up a cheep but powerful 8 inch tablet. It connects to the trucks modem then through blue tooth enables Android auto. I can then use my business phone as normal. Not only am I distracted by my phone call but I have even more stuff to touch and focus on besides the road. Love it!!
oh and now I can type texts . ...
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rvpilot
it's the dictatorship I can't stand. I haven't been forced to comply until this truck.
Only if you choose to use AA. You can always use the built-in NAV (if you have it) and use BlueTooth for your calls. Or do what you did (below).

They are worried about safety? You should take a drive behind blue cruse when the road is wet. Lol it's like a pinball machine.
You should never use cruise control of any kind when the roads are anything but dry. Not sure about you, but I hear and read that everywhere.

Anyway I picked up a cheep but powerful 8 inch tablet. It connects to the trucks modem then through blue tooth enables Android auto. I can then use my business phone as normal.
Glad you came upon a solution.
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 11:54 AM
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But Google isn't forcing you to do anything. You choose to use their software.
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rvpilot
it's the dictatorship I can't stand.
It's not because someone decided to inconvenience you. It would be a boatload of work to code the software to allow people to toggle every "app" (I'll include phone as an "app" for simplicity sake) to be customizable to the extent you're looking for. For you, it's the phone, but I'm sure 100 different people will have 100 different ways they would want to customize that function in an entirely different way, including 3rd party apps. That likely would be a nightmare to maintain in the software code.

AA/Carplay is designed to put everything (at least everything supported for it) on the headunit. Allowing people to customize what they don't want to use with it defeats the whole purpose.

Most I know who have the same requirement you do just don't use AA/Carplay and get a mount for their phone so that they can glance at maps if needed, but everything is streamed through Bluetooth. If you have a headset and a call comes in, you answer with the headset and the call goes through that instead of the vehicle. Think common Uber/Lyft driver setups.

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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rvpilot
I finally got wireless android auto working. I wanted it JUST for the audio apps I run like tidal. Problem is android auto takes over for my phone calls in and out. I do not want my calls being monitored by my passengers. I also can't control the calls out.
how can I stop aa from taking my calls?
Or maybe a suggestion on sites that can better answer this
Can you go into "app settings" - "apps" - "Android Auto" - "permissions" - "Don't allow" and remove phone permission from AA? I haven't tried this yet and can't test until later.

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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bryan_c
Can you go into "app settings" - "apps" - "Android Auto" - "permissions" - "Don't allow" and remove phone permission from AA? I haven't tried this yet and can't test until later.
That option is avail on my S22 Ultra. He could try that.
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bryan_c
Can you go into "app settings" - "apps" - "Android Auto" - "permissions" - "Don't allow" and remove phone permission from AA? I haven't tried this yet and can't test until later.
ok that's my point. The ability to toggle off permissions has been defeated. Once you toggle it off it resets to on. Not something that happened to prior trucks. Also if a call comes in and i answer it with my headset i used to be able to continue the call on the headset. Now with current software when i try to answer with headset the phone dissengages android auto all together and wont go back to android auto normal operations until i go into settings on truck and re set android auto back to on. The way this works seems like unnecessary distraction.
I still believe Google went out if their way to force calls away from phone by adding code that resets the permissions. Fine.. I'm sure there are many people that disagree with me.

My solution is really quite acceptable. Leaving a burner phone in the charging cradle. I have just one more issue to work out. I need to set the charging cradle to power on at all times. The location of the cradle is very inconvenient and I don't see myself remembering to power off the phone. There is times I won't be using the truck for days. If the phones battery dies I have to go threw and set up blue tooth . Just powering off the phone I don't have to do that.
This new software and its integration is very very nice. The wireless feature is ten times better than I expected it would be. I'm doing stuff with my streaming server from home that blows my mind. The bit about being forced to take calls on my truck without having the option to switch to my phone blows.
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Old Feb 3, 2023 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by barrytone
It's not because someone decided to inconvenience you. It would be a boatload of work to code the software to allow people to toggle every "app" (I'll include phone as an "app" for simplicity sake) to be customizable to the extent you're looking for. For you, it's the phone, but I'm sure 100 different people will have 100 different ways they would want to customize that function in an entirely different way, including 3rd party apps. That likely would be a nightmare to maintain in the software code.

AA/Carplay is designed to put everything (at least everything supported for it) on the headunit. Allowing people to customize what they don't want to use with it defeats the whole purpose.

Most I know who have the same requirement you do just don't use AA/Carplay and get a mount for their phone so that they can glance at maps if needed, but everything is streamed through Bluetooth. If you have a headset and a call comes in, you answer with the headset and the call goes through that instead of the vehicle. Think common Uber/Lyft driver setups.
I have looked everywhere and can't find a way to send the current call back to headset. My phone is locked also. Someone else mentioned that I press the privacy button. I don't see one.
this is really ticking me off. I want android auto for explicit features but the phone call thing is frustrating.
If I can only pass the call back. The other day I had my window down and came to an intersection. Other cars beside me. They could gear my private conversation. I'm going to kick the next cat I see
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Old Feb 5, 2023 | 12:57 AM
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I ran into the same thing. My solution was to disable Android Auto on my phone. The other neat feature is that if you try to disconnect it by togglying bluetooth off on your phone, Android Auto will "helpfully" automatically turn Bluetooth back on. That was the last straw for me: if a program behaves like a virus, it's a virus.
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