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Looking at a 2018 2.7 EB soon and wondering if I should avoid it altogether. Initial research told me that the gen 2's had fixed the repeat oil pan issues(which some users on this site seemed to attribute to excess boost pressure), but now I am seeing that there was a TSB to replace the pans in early production 2018s.
I would probably pass if the issue was not resolved with the 2nd gen (2018+).
Can anyone please advise if this issue is going to keep coming back?
The oil pan gasket leakage has nothing to do with boost. And its resolved on Gen 2's.
If you have a Gen 1 and it leaked, the dealer shouldnt have a problem fixing it the first time if they are half competent.
As of now, there are no common problems with 3.3 or 2.7 engines. Besides cam phasers and some having overheating issues, the 3.5 has had most of its issues worked out. The 5.0 has had oil burning issues.
There are almost 400 posts in that thread. I wont be reading all of that.
By 2018, the oil pan issue was resolved.
On another note, I personally know people who own gen 1 2.7L trucks. And yes, they had a leaky oil pan gasket. Once it was replaced, the problem was solved.
Would you buy one used from a reputable Ford dealership with 60k miles?
Just FYI: Reputable doesn't carry much weight.
It is up to you to make sure the exact vehicle you are looking at is a good buy.
It is usually encouraged for the potential buyer (you) have the vehicle inspected by a shop. They typically follow a "used vehicle inspection" process. It's not official as far as I know, but they will review the vehicle for you.
Take for example I bought a truck with a front cover over leak. I traded the truck with the same front cover oil leak. The location I purchased from never disclosed that, I'm 99% certain the dealership I traded it to did not disclose any oil leak.
Both dealerships are fairly big, I suppose.
It was my fault I missed it, however the motors are tight to view and the detailers did a heck of a job cleaning it before it was for sale when I purchased it.
So a blanket statement of "would you buy from a reputable dealership" still comes down to you and the exact vehicle you are looking at. The dealership is going to offer you an extended warranty to deal with any current problems or upcoming problems.
Work with the salesperson. Ask if they are familiar with selling Ford Trucks. Ask how long. Get a relationship with that person and share your concerns. They will do their best to ignore most any concern you have but they may listen a little. You can be assured the person you talk with will "never heard of that" when you ask if the oil pan leaks on the truck you want. Or that person may say "Yeah, a couple of them were leaky I guess, but we've never seen any here".
Good luck -sounds like you've got your eye on one that is enticing you. Hope you can make it work out.
Update:
Test drove two trucks at different dealerships today. Both around 60k miles: a 2018 3.5 and a 2019 2.7. The 2.7 was a little more expensive ($2500 more), with a few thousand less miles (7,000 less). Both are certified and supposedly covered by Ford till 100k, 7 years from initial sale.
Both were started cold (25°F this morning) in the lot in front of me. The 2.7 made no sounds other than a bit of a ticking. The salesperson offered "that ticking sound is from the high pressure oil pump necessary for direct gasoline injection". It didn't really strike me as off, but was audible. Also noted that the plastic engine cover was nowhere to be found. There were no maintenance records, but supposedly the single owner purchased it there and traded it back in. There was 6L written in silver paint pen in the engine bay, so the dealer assumes the elderly gentleman had done all the oil changes. It drove great, shifts seemed smooth. Acceleration was fine passing a semi on the on ramp.
The 3.5 was a different story. Engine bay rattled and squeaked on startup, and it didn't go away after warm up nor after a freeway test drive. The salesperson didnt "hear anything, and ALL trucks rattle like that till they warm up. If I can't hear it, not a problem". The driver's side door wouldn't latch closed until slammed 6 times by the salesperson. He offered up that "it must just have been frozen in the cold, not a problem". The transmission was an even worse deal. Shifted real bad, up or down, especially in sport mode. The salesperson suggested that was the only reason it was shifting hard, but after following his suggestion to go back to normal mode, it was still pretty rough but a bit less hard when it did clunk. Salesperson was reading the Carfax during the ride. By the time we got to the fourth owner I asked about the first owner and it was a rental. There was a nice bonus frozen in the bed of the truck though, see attached.
Probably gotta pass on the 3.5 and spend a bit more time saving up the gap to to the newer, nicer truck.
2018 2.7 EB - problems?
