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Old 11-22-2013, 09:29 AM
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sniman
A fully boxed frame doesn't mean diddly!...just a marketing thing... a way to make the frame stronger with thinner, lower psi steel. I would take a C channel, sronger frame any day over the present-cheezy fuly boxed frame.
My Super Duty F-250's frame is almost a 1/4" thick...it would probably survive driving through a house! I also used to own several Navistar 4900 series medium dudy trucks and you can actually order different psi density frames while specing these trucks...also c channel!
Like I posted in the other thread on this, the fully boxed frame is a way to get the same strength out of less steel. Box tubing is much stronger than C channel, plain and simple. Then add in the shape differences when building a half-ton pickup and it's a no brainer. You say that a fully boxed frame is a way to make it "stronger with thinner, lower psi steel". To me, that sounds like a win-win and not something to complain about.

We have a Cat CT660 as a feed truck and we spec'd it with dual frame rails. The stock frame rail is .25 inches thick and then the additional outer rail is .25 inches thick. That's a half inch of frame on each side.

The significant difference here is that a truck is essentially a straight frame with no curves or dips along the length of the rail so it's very easy to build a frame as opposed to a pickup with a much different frame design. Obviously engineers can work around the different problems but there's a lot more to it than just marketing.
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Originally Posted by XtraLargeTall

Like I posted in the other thread on this, the fully boxed frame is a way to get the same strength out of less steel. Box tubing is much stronger than C channel, plain and simple. Then add in the shape differences when building a half-ton pickup and it's a no brainer. You say that a fully boxed frame is a way to make it "stronger with thinner, lower psi steel". To me, that sounds like a win-win and not something to complain about.

We have a Cat CT660 as a feed truck and we spec'd it with dual frame rails. The stock frame rail is .25 inches thick and then the additional outer rail is .25 inches thick. That's a half inch of frame on each side.

The significant difference here is that a truck is essentially a straight frame with no curves or dips along the length of the rail so it's very easy to build a frame as opposed to a pickup with a much different frame design. Obviously engineers can work around the different problems but there's a lot more to it than just marketing.
It's more complicated than a fully boxed frame is stronger per weight than C-channel. There are other significant details to the frame.
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Might look better with a different style grill.
That one does nothing for me.
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The wheels look small compared to the truck, though the wheels are nice!

I'm loving the glossy pillars.

The mirrors look kind of stubby.

It looks like the truck has a tonneau cover on it. I wonder if the 2015 will have tonneau covers on some of the high end trims directly from the factory?

I'm not sure how I feel about the headlights being stacked like the GM's are.

What I do know is that guy driving has a great job!
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I'm ready to buy my first F-150 but guess I'll have to hold out long enough to see a 2015 now. I like to look of the Atlas but that won't be enough to keep me from buying a 2013 or 14. The thing I'm really interested in are the door handle/locks. Will Ford finally integrate them behind the door skin? Looks like they did on the Atlas. If so I'm all over the 2015. I can't stand the thought of some creep looking through the parking lot for a late model Ford to use his scewdriver on! So if they didn't fix this, I'll be looking for tips of where to park it!



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