14indy

OK guys, I am going with a catch can on my new 2.7 as soon as it comes in. What brand and where do I buy it?

tsigwing

you can waste your money on any of them, they lighten your wallet all the same.

tanked_darren

This.

WXman

Odd because most people report that they trap quite a bit during an oil change cycle. A couple of guys even have had to empty theirs out before the oil change interval was reached.

The pics are proof. There's also a video discussing it. If Ford knows it's a problem, why do guys on forums say it's not?

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2014/12...t-engines.html

Xlt5

The pics are proof that the cans are CATCHING...NOT that the catching is any real benefit. The results of the can PROVE nothing - as the system is designed to handle what the cans are catching.

I also can't PROVE that they don't help - but there is certainly no PROOF that they do. People on here love to throw that word around without considering what it actually means. This has been discussed many many times on here.

Mobilman44

Hi!
In my career with Mobil / ExxonMobil, I witnessed the static motor testings of Mobil1 in the early '70s at the New Jersey labs. One motor - small block Chevy as I recall - was run 100k miles on a single load of Mobil 1. At 100k the motor was disassembled and wiped down, and frankly it looked like new. Given that, and its ability to allow motors to turn over easily on super cold mornings, I became an instant believer.

While today's motors are leaps and bounds ahead of those earlier ones, they still need a bit of TLC for the first 1-2k miles. I've always changed out the factory fill at 2k, installed Mobil 1, and changed it out at 3-4k thereafter. The folks in the lab said you can easily go 5-10k but I still change it out sooner.

johndog82

iTrader: (3)

i love how these catch can naysayers don't bat an eyelid to people throwing away $4 grand on lift kits and big tires and never going off the pavement and killing their MPG's in the process, but I'm an idiot for spending <$300 to keep oil out of my intake. lolz.

Even if its negligible, intake goo/deposits still eventually lower the octane of the fuel causing slight power/mileage reduction especially later in the engines lifespan. Now before you get your undies in a bunch and misconstrue what I'm saying, I already know these issues are exaggerated by catch can sellers. And I STILL bought one and don't regret it. You all use the same old "millions of cars run perfectly for 200k without one" argument....yawn. We never disagreed about that. But a CC in the proper working application doesn't fit the true definition of snake oil. If it didn't catch anything, then it would be snake oil. But there is a real world benefit that I get to observe even if it's not from behind the wheel. I don't have to clean my TB nearly as often now, that alone makes it worth it. The decision to get one was a highly personal choice based on the knowledge of the Coyote's PCV system and the fact that I'm an **** enthusiast who is keeping this truck for the long haul. And I already know how you're going to argue this, so let me stop you right there and tell you that the "feel-good cleanliness" is by itself a good enough reason for me to have one, especially with the thousands of dollars I have left over from not buying a useless lift kit and big tires for my pavement dweller *puts on flame suit*

Xlt5

No campaign here. Not saying they don't work just saying I haven't seen any proof to suggest they are worth the cost. I drive a truck, not a race car. There's been plenty of well documented issues with the 3.5 and 2.7 ecoboost so far, I don't recall coked valves being one of them.

Im not knocking anyone who buys one, it's your money. I just won't be, and I am entitled to my opinion. Maybe I will regret not buying one someday, if so I will come on here and say that - no problem!

Maybe try to keep the comments about "you guys" to yourself next time. I never once mentioned "snake oil" or "self righteousness", simply my opinion. I don't judge anybody who buys one, like I said earlier, I can't prove that they DON'T work.

johndog82

iTrader: (3)

I know im in the wrong thread b/c this is supposed to be about the EB, but the "I drive a truck not a racecar" statement is moot for me considering my engine is derived from one of Ford's race cars and this v8 produces significant PCV blowby. One can easily prove that my CC is doing exactly what it was intended to do (otherwise I would've returned it). What we can't prove is whether it gives any real world benefits, and my response is that it does give me real world benefits, in the form of not having to clean my TB and the feel-good feeling that I and other OCD people get from being able to verify that my intake manifold stays bone dry. We get laughed at for it but why do the anti-CC people never have anything to say about the fact that aftermarket exhaust is very popular and costs more than my catch can and gives no real world benefits on a stock truck with an OEM exhaust that's already as free-flowing as it gets?---different sound is all you get. How is making your truck sound a certain way so different than me keeping f***ing oil out of my intake? Both are useless "feel-good" rewards of our hobby. Guys with custom exhaust on otherwise stock trucks blew more $$$ than I did, so it makes perfect logical sense to bash aftermarket exhausts by the same logic that the catch can bashers use.

Xlt5

Did you even read all of what I wrote, or just that one small part that ignited your rant?

Enjoy your CC. Like I've already said I do not think it's ridiculous that people buy them, and i wouldnt consider nyself a BASHER just because i don't support them. Have at er boys and gals!

I should have known better than to provide an opinion on CC on here...