Thank you for your patience while waiting to place your order for the F-150 Lightning. Interest and demand for this electric vehicle has been unprecedented. Due to high demand, we would like to let you know that we are no longer processing orders for the 2022 model year.

We want to assure you that your reservation still stands and will be carried forward, which will provide you the opportunity to order a future model year. As we work through the reservations, your dealer will contact you when it’s your time to convert your reservation to an order.

We remain committed to staying in touch with you throughout this process. We would hate for you to cancel your reservation, but if you choose not to go electric now, you may cancel at any time. You can also learn more about F-150 Lightning and our hybrid trucks at Ford.ca.

The excitement and demand for this history-making vehicle is incredible, so we appreciate your patience. Thanks for joining us in the electric revolution.

Sincerely,
Ford of Canada

 

Doctor of mine got similar notice many months ago, he said while he was initially disappointed, he was glad because that way he was not getting first gen and he had also seen or heard of changes for the 23 model that he liked better.

 

Smart by Ford. They just raised prices. Now cancel the orders for the cheaper year, then reapply them to the higher price point. $$.

 

Supply and demand, all they made are sold. You can’t sell what you don’t have.

 

It being the first year of an entirely new vehicle that's drastically different, being built in a brand new facility, I'm sure they've got their hands full pumping out trucks through the end of the 2022 model year, which, by the way, could have ended back in January as that's what the fed permits. They are up against a wall of being physically incapable of building any more trucks to be sold as 2022's before the switch to 2023 in the fall, which is right around the corner as we're in the 8th month of this year.

 

Funny how folks will make excuses for Ford and their short sightedness and inability to get the job done.

Most of the technology behind Ford's EVs is direct from Tesla's open sourced patents!
So its not like they have to re-engineer any of the technology.

I've been trying to check out a Mustang Mach E and a Lightning for months now and even when the dealer websites show as having one in stock you get there and theres nothing.
Then I talk to some "sales person" who says he can order me one in.

When will I get it? well...there are delays...blah blah blah...at least give me some inclination as to when I will receive it.

Bottom line is I don't trust Ford to deliver on their promises!

I can build a new model Y, lay down the deposit and get a straight away answer on delivery which based on family members experiences has been very accurate!

Funny that Tesla can deliver on their promises and still build almost 1.5 million vehicles a year!!??

 

dealer websites are frequently automatically populated and even customer ordered vehicles will end up getting listed and then removed by someone from the dealership.

You would hope Tesla's production would be easier to predict when they have a whole 4 models and the options are basically
1) single or dual motor
2) the auto pilot or full self self driving

everything else is cosmetic unlike all the packages Ford offers with different technology likely to be effected by chip issues etc... Tesla may be selling 1.5 million vehicles world wide, meanwhile in a normal year Ford would sell close to a million F150s alone in North America.

I will give Tesla credit - they re-wrote all their firmware on the fly so they could move to chips that were readily available and not have production impacted as much as the goliaths.

 

Hmm, wonder where I've heard this kind of statement lodged against TeslaBois... oh, yeah, every time Tesla doesn't deliver on their promises, which... is a lot.


Do you engineer? No one, beside China, is copypasting Tesla's developed tech, which was in turn developed on the shoulders of those that preceded them.

Most companies want their product to be sufficiently different so they can patent it; that's how they edge out their competitors. While everyone definitely will ogle any thing another mfg puts into the ether, they are indeed totally engineering their own product. Nothing is a 1:1 reproduction.


The fact that the Mach E and Lightning are selling the second they hit the lot bodes well for the EV market and Ford. If you don't like the fact that you can't get your butt to the dealer between the time they take delivery and sell off the EV cars Ford is producing, you are more than welcome to choose a different manufacturer. It surely would be less stressful than coming here to bash a company that's dipping their toe into an entirely new product that requires different manufacturing processes than they've been doing the past century.

Tesla had the luxury of building from the ground up to produce EV's, and they've had 14 years to improve upon their processes. They produced HUNDREDS of EV's per year for the first how many years? 4? It took Tesla 9 years, nearly a decade, to produce more TOTAL vehicles than Mach E's produced in 2021, it's first year of production. Ford produced as many Mach-E's as Model X's, Tesla's SUV offering, in the first year of Mach-E production. Ford is now producing and delivering Lightnings, and has a ground-up re-design scheduled for delivery just three years down the road, while Cybertruck isn't slated to begin production for another year.

I fail to see solid grounds for these complaints.

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Originally Posted by Stu Cazzo

Bottom line is I don't trust Ford to deliver on their promises!

You certainly can.


Funny how some people have no idea how to start up an entirely new production line, in an entirely new facility, on the tail of a world-wide pandemic when logistics are still in chaos and there is a shortage of just about everything produced.

Tesla produces 1.5 million vehicles a year? Ford produces 4x that, with 10x the variations, in 6x the countries, and also has 5 joint ventures with other vehicle manufacturers to deal with. Tesla had the luxury of being the only kid on the block for a decade, and was able to do things however they wanted while investors paid all the losses, but signs indicate people are literally falling over themselves for an EV made from a traditional manufacturer, and those benefits are going to end for Tesla. They are no longer the sole proprietor of new tech and are going to have to start being a company that intends to remain above water. They are going to have to actually compete against other manufacturers.

Since we're talking about tarnished images, where does Tesla currently stand on their paint, panel alignment, glass retention, insane repair/replacement cost of exterior panels, and poor customer service issues? When will I be able to walk into a dealership and buy a Tesla today because I need one today?

When is Tesla going to deliver on their promise of fully self driving? That goalpost gets moved as often as the Mayan end of the world date. I see they recently instated a $15,000 charge for it. Should reduce the number of people that die each year due to that not-ready-for-prime-time feature. Tesla beta-testing living rent free in people's deaths.

Nobody's perfect, not even in Muskdom.

 

 

My reservation number placed me around the 61,000 mark. Two days ago I got the call from my dealer to come in and order.
While I hate the politics and the games most all auto mfg companies are playing right I went ahead and ordered a Lariat 511A in Grey Metallic. The only option I added was a spray-in liner.
If I'm lucky I'll see it arrive mid summer 2023.
On a small plus side they had 3 modal 510A's that I was able to at least only sit in as of course they're sold.