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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 12:16 PM
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Got an oil change and tire rotation. I found out afterward they did front to rear rotation, no crossing of the fronts to the rears. Is this a problem?

Manual says to cross. This was my second oil change and rotation, at 10k miles.

Don't worry about it or do I need to go back to the shop? Have michelin defender ltx 275/65R18. Thanks
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 12:18 PM
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This is a pretty common thing these days due to lots of tires being directional.

I personally wouldn’t worry about it. Maybe just be sure to cross them next time.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DuneRunr
This is a pretty common thing these days due to lots of tires being directional.

I personally wouldn’t worry about it. Maybe just be sure to cross them next time.
Agree 100%. If your tires are not directional, cross them next time. No need to go back now. I cross my fronts to the rear and the rear straight up same side to the front every oil change, every car I've had for last 30 years. No issues.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 01:44 PM
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Front to back with no cross has been standard rotation since the invention of steel belted radial tires.
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by David Hineline
Front to back with no cross has been standard rotation since the invention of steel belted radial tires.
I remember some discussions early on about not reversing the rotation direction of radials and got stuck on that. I see true advantage of swapping fronts and rears, not so much for side to side, when it comes to evening out tread wear.
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 12:11 AM
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Lol, I took my truck to my dealer early June for free oil change and free tire rotation at 5000 miles.

While the work order said they rotated the tires, I know for a fact they did not rotate them. (Old trick, grease pencil mark, inside wall, LF RF etc)

I let it go, just good info confirming the incompetence I have already witnessed at the dealership.

now at 7800 miles I am noticing the very early signs of some feathering on the fronts.

great, so now I am going to take the truck to a 100% trustworthy local alignment shop and pay to have the tires properly rotated and an alignment check.

About $150 bucks and a lot of peace of mind on this bs saga.

Up until recently I had like 10 vehicles in my personal fleet. I sold a few over the past 6 months whittling done my collection.

I did most of my own work on them but now they are gone, I have more time to play games with my new truck.

I am very lucky to have this alignment shop near by and they have solved several problems over the years just by doing their job right.

looking forward to seeing how a new truck comes through their shop and what may need adjustment.

20 inch Scorpions (which I love btw, even though I know they are not popular here)

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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bskrantz
I remember some discussions early on about not reversing the rotation direction of radials and got stuck on that. I see true advantage of swapping fronts and rears, not so much for side to side, when it comes to evening out tread wear.
Side to side will help keep treadwear even related to cornering. If you turn right more than left, one side of the tires will wear faster, and swapping sides helps to avoid that.
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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Tire rotation and the "correct" way to do it is almost like an oil change (when to do it and what oil to use) debate.
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 12:39 PM
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Was told by a tire dealer yrs ago that aggressive tread tires should always be X'd. My BFG kos lasted 70k!
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 08:38 PM
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I’ve crossed fronts to rear, and rears straight up at every oil change since I started driving. Always gotten great wear and life on my tires so I’ll stick with it. Also never had an alignment done, never seen a reason for it. Not saying they don’t serve a purpose, just personally never had a need on any vehicle I’ve owned.
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