Increasing payload capacity
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I thought it was mostly because of the weight - a Raptor weighs quite a few hundred pounds more than other F-150 models.
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First step in a payload uprate on an F-150 is to swap the frame. The lighter-duty F-150 frames have a thinner gauge steel than the HDPP models, since they don't need as much strength. There are usually two or three different frame variants for each cab/bed/drivetrain, labeled LD, HD, and HDPP. The HDPP is used on all HDPP models. The HD frame is used in max tow and possibly in some 2.7 payload package configurations. All other F-150s get the LD frame. To make it worth your while, you'll certainly want to find the HDPP frame.
Frame swaps aren't all that hard, though having a lift certainly makes life easier. However, they are time consuming. Most DIYers can do it in a week or less.
If you can find a rollover donor vehicle, sometimes you can just body swap it and get all the suspension and drivetrain components as well.
Frame swaps aren't all that hard, though having a lift certainly makes life easier. However, they are time consuming. Most DIYers can do it in a week or less.
If you can find a rollover donor vehicle, sometimes you can just body swap it and get all the suspension and drivetrain components as well.
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Oh interesting point. How would the braking change, in what aspect? What about those hitch extensions that can be adjusted to get to a lower height? I've seen those on many lifted trucks.
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First step in a payload uprate on an F-150 is to swap the frame. The lighter-duty F-150 frames have a thinner gauge steel than the HDPP models, since they don't need as much strength. There are usually two or three different frame variants for each cab/bed/drivetrain, labeled LD, HD, and HDPP. The HDPP is used on all HDPP models. The HD frame is used in max tow and possibly in some 2.7 payload package configurations. All other F-150s get the LD frame. To make it worth your while, you'll certainly want to find the HDPP frame.
Frame swaps aren't all that hard, though having a lift certainly makes life easier. However, they are time consuming. Most DIYers can do it in a week or less.
If you can find a rollover donor vehicle, sometimes you can just body swap it and get all the suspension and drivetrain components as well.
Frame swaps aren't all that hard, though having a lift certainly makes life easier. However, they are time consuming. Most DIYers can do it in a week or less.
If you can find a rollover donor vehicle, sometimes you can just body swap it and get all the suspension and drivetrain components as well.
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If you want a quick check , have a look on the passenger side frame rail just by the door for a sticker, there will be a scan code and some numbers on the sticker and whether the frame is hd or other.
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Take a spoon hold it by the very top and push at the very bottom. It is all in the leverage. Lifting and Towing
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To answer your specific questions:
.are to exceed the safe capabilities of their vehicles because they don't care about their safety, their family's safety, or the safety of others. They are not increasing payload, they are changing how the truck handles the excess weight they plan to put on it. This doesn't change the capacity of the truck's systems, axles, brakes, etc. And it doesn't move the legal payload a single pound.
.are to exceed the safe capabilities of their vehicles because they don't care about their safety, their family's safety, or the safety of others. They are not increasing payload, they are changing how the truck handles the excess weight they plan to put on it. This doesn't change the capacity of the truck's systems, axles, brakes, etc. And it doesn't move the legal payload a single pound.
1 - 2.7 equipped SCREW trucks rated at 6600 GVWR that have the same frame, 8.8 and double rear leaf spring as the 5.0 equipped models that are rated at 7050.
2 - The PowerBoost models at 7350 that have the same (or thicker) frame as the HDPP, triple rear leaf spring and variation of the 9.75 as the 7800 rated trucks.
While I totally get that legally you aren't supposed to go over the payload on the sticker, I also wouldn't be overly concerned if you go a bit over in those two specific cases and has nothing to do with not caring about "safety" more than Ford wanting to increase sales of higher models.
In other cases, there's also a difference between being grossly overweight (IE, putting 2500lb into a 1500lb payload truck) and being 200lb overweight a couple times/year. 200lb of 7050GVWR is 2.8%. I'm pretty sure there's not a vehicle out there that's going to automatically become dangerous when it's less than 3% overweight.
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I really appreciate everyone's responses. This helps clear things up. Its not that I'm planning on hauling dump loads or anything in my truck, but I may need to haul some stuff around 1k or maybe slightly heavier on an occasion and just wanted to double check. Would definitely like to weigh my truck somewhere, I'm sure there's a few places around here being one of the largest cities in the states. I do see an immense amount of people towing with 150's humongous landscape trailers to the point where their back end is dangerously sagging. Apparently nobody cares lol.
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I ended up going to a cat scale, there's a few around town. Only cost me $13. But now I know what my capabilities are. Thanks everyone for chipping in!
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When you tow with a non lifted truck the trailer the frame of the truck are in alignment for the most part. With a lifted truck and the extension the truck sits higher the frame sits higher. The tongue of the trailer is lower depending on the extension.
Take a spoon hold it by the very top and push at the very bottom. It is all in the leverage. Lifting and Towing
Take a spoon hold it by the very top and push at the very bottom. It is all in the leverage. Lifting and Towing