I just posted about this in another thread, and wanted to create a standalone one for discussion/answers.

Since Ford unveiled the 14th Gen, ive been curious--why did they offer the hybrid option with only one engine? I know that most vehicle models only have one hybrid option, but the F150 has four gasoline options and a diesel to choose from. For CAFE purposes, a 2.7 hybrid would make a lot of sense.

It seems reasonable to conclude that if Ford keeps so many engine choices around after the next mid cycle refresh, the hybrid system would make it to more than one powertrain. Would love to hear any information towards this, thoughts, and outright speculation.

 

I would have loved if the Hybrid was available with the 2.7. I love that engine and I don't necessarily need the power of the 3.5, but the tech of the Hybrid really has me wanting it.

 

Hybrid is not "added" to a powertrain. It's a totally different engine configuration.

 

Most Hybrid powertrains use an engine that utilizes an Atkinson cycle. In Ford's instance, they use a normal 3.5TT engine mated to a transmission that has an electric motor in it.

Theoretically, Ford could bolt any engine up to the hybrid transmission and it will work.

 

Yes. 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025. Why not?

 

Been really busy and couldnt get back to this as soon as I wanted.

If the hybrid is a completely separate engine, yet Ford's particular hybrid setup is almost "plug and play," additional hybrid options at the next mid cycle refresh would make it easy for Ford to tout "new" engines, with most of the R/D having been completed and tested via the 3.5 PB.

Making that leap would take Ford one step closer to having an all hybrid/electric F150 lineup. A hybrid 2.7 would be a boon to people using their trucks primarily in urban environments.

Very curious to watch the progress and success of the 3.5 PB over the next couple of years. If proven to be reliant and match real world efficiency with it's on paper numbers, Ford will be that much further ahead of its rivals yet again.

 

It's ridiculous that the F150's have the 3.3, 2.7, 3.5, 5.0 and 3.0 diesel and now the 3.5 hybrid engines. The demand of the retail market is brutal. And don't forget that they have the 6.2 and 7.3 Godzilla engines in the 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks--in addition to the 6.7 diesels. And a new 6.8 gas V-8 engine's going to come out of the Windsor engine factory a year from now. That's a lot of engineering.

Right now, Ford's in the midst of having to re-design their product lines to have fully electric powertrains. Trucks now require two completely different chassis'. And they're having to design and build the factory and the machinery to build full electric cars and trucks. All of this is extremely expensive--while trying to maintain the status quo of the current powerplants.

After all, there's just enough money to go around.

 

That's why Ford just bought out about 1400 salaried employees and let go of a lot of contract workers.

I wouldn't expect anything to be announced officially, but Ford is going to follow GM. GM has already stated that they aren't investing any more money to develop internal combustion drivetrains. Europe and California are talking about banning ICE vehicles starting in about 10 years, and if the next administration gets their way, America will follow. Lack of infrastructure be dammed.

 

The F150 engine lineup baffles me as well. I realize that Ford sells 900K of them per year, so if the 3.3 and 3.0 are only 5% of sales each, that's still a total of 90K trucks. But if Ford stopped offering those two engines, particularly the 3.3, how many sales would they lose to other brands?

With the new 7.3 gas engine in the Super Duty, no reason to keep the 6.2 around either. As long as the Mustang offers a V8, the same engine will have to be available in the F150, which makes a sharing of the 6.2 between the F150 and SD impractical.

 

The 2.7 is better than the 3.3 in every conceivable measure. However, the 3.3 needs to stay for fleet sales and the "I don't want one o' them there turbo doohickeys mah truck!" types that also don't want to spend the $$$ on a 5.0.