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Old 04-11-2024, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Super 3.5
Great looking truck. Looks alot like my 2022 Lariat except the bed is too short.
lol....I can barely fit the 5'7" supercrew I have now in my garage.....I need a bigger garage!
Old 04-12-2024, 06:41 AM
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Hard to take this post seriously....you lost me when you mentioned that nasty 3 letter word: GMC....haha.

All my relatives work at GM....and after 2 successful lemon lawsuits for GM Lemons ( one a Silverado) and 3 more I could have won had the law been in effect back then....I will never own a GM anything again. Employee discount or not.

My 2018 5.0 is gutless in comparison to even the 2.7 liter V8.....until you floor it at higher revs. It is alright, and I didn't mind it....but I am excited to try a 3.5. My buddy has a 2015....which is a 1st Gen and one that mechanics would tell you to avoid, but he has had over 130k of trouble free miles....

RAM is not cheaper anymore. I picked a new 2025 Ram.....it was 3k more than my comparably equipped Lariat....but had less options. They really hiked their prices for the new 2025 model year units now landing on dealership lots....they are actually the MOST expensive trucks out there now. They got rid of the Hemi, which is fine by me...and the new Hurricane 3.0 inline 6 was smooth and powerful and quiet....but I just couldn't pay more to be a guinea pig on a Stallantis engine that has no reliability history behind it.

To each their own, on that front.
During the search for my latest F150 I test drove 5.0's and 3.5's. The difference is night and day for throttle response and power delivery. The 5.0 did really need higher rpm's to make it's power whereas the 3.5 had a ton of power at any rpm. I will gladly sacrifice a little exhaust note for the extra 100 lb/ft of torque.

I am not bashing the 5.0 by any means. I just tend to get the powerplant with the most power in my vehicle purchases. I drove a V10 superduty prior to this truck. MPG is not a huge factor since it is not a daily driver but I am thrilled to get close to 20 mpg now!
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Originally Posted by Joe Friday
Hard to take this post seriously....you lost me when you mentioned that nasty 3 letter word: GMC....haha.

All my relatives work at GM....and after 2 successful lemon lawsuits for GM Lemons ( one a Silverado) and 3 more I could have won had the law been in effect back then....I will never own a GM anything again. Employee discount or not.

My 2018 5.0 is gutless in comparison to even the 2.7 liter V8.....until you floor it at higher revs. It is alright, and I didn't mind it....but I am excited to try a 3.5. My buddy has a 2015....which is a 1st Gen and one that mechanics would tell you to avoid, but he has had over 130k of trouble free miles....

RAM is not cheaper anymore. I picked a new 2025 Ram.....it was 3k more than my comparably equipped Lariat....but had less options. They really hiked their prices for the new 2025 model year units now landing on dealership lots....they are actually the MOST expensive trucks out there now. They got rid of the Hemi, which is fine by me...and the new Hurricane 3.0 inline 6 was smooth and powerful and quiet....but I just couldn't pay more to be a guinea pig on a Stallantis engine that has no reliability history behind it.

To each their own, on that front.
The 21+ 5.0 has 20 lb ft more torque under the curve in the low end, while not earth shattering it’s a significant improvement over the 2018 version across the entire rev range. No N/A engine will match the low end punch of forced induction, if that’s the power curve you desire you made a good choice with the 3.5. 500 lb ft at 3,000 rpm is more like a diesel than a gas engine, the EcoBoosts excel at the low end with the fast spoolers they have.

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I started shopping knowing that I wanted the V8. Now I would try the 3.5 turbo. They seem to have ironed out any issues with the 3.5 and the horsepower and torque numbers are impressive. I personally am against cylinder deactivation and that's what killed the V8 choice for me. They always deactivate the same 4 cylinders and I don't believe that's going to be good long term. There are some reports of failures starting to show up. I don't believe there is any real world advantage, just a game with the EPA to look "cleaner" in a mythical test chamber.
My thoughts exactly - I ended up ordering a Lariat with the 3.5 eco boost.
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I have a 2018 Ford F150 Lariat... pretty well loaded. I have generally liked it, and am considering a new 2024 Lariat in the near future.

I am a researcher, and want to make the right decision.... regarding the engine choices available for the Lariat.

I currently have the 5.0 liter in my 2018 Lariat. I like the engine overall, but did have some of the oil consumption issues.... the TSB helped, I think..... but it still uses just shy of 1 qt oil at 3,000 miles. I ALWAYS changed my oil at 3,500 miles, but since the oil consumption thing, I am now doing it at 3K miles. Not too concerned about it.

Anyway....it does lead me to wonder if I should try the 3.5 Ecoboost this next go around... for a couple reasons.

First: The 5.0 has incorporated the dreaded Cylinder Deactivation.... which immediately brings to mind all of the issues that lousy technology has brought to everyone that has employed it: Hondas, Rams, Chevy trucks, etc.... have all had consistent oil burners, lifter issues, etc. So, that kind of worries me with the introduction of Cylinder Deactivation to the 5.0.

I haven't really seen a lot of discussion on the internet about Cylinder Deactivation being an issue with the 5.0 engines utilizing it, however, so am wondering if Ford did it better and has a solid implementation that will last the long haul??? What are your thoughts on that?

The 3.5 intrigues me, but I have read lots of horror stories about timing chain issues, cam phaser issues, oil leaks, etc..... yet, I have seen more current mechanic reviews that discuss how the cam phasers have been redesigned and no longer have the issue, as well as Ford having gone to two shorter timing chains instead of one long one, so stretch is not a problem there either. Is that true??

Looking for feedback from 5.0 owners with the cylinder deactivation and owners of newest gen 3.5 engines - and how reliable they have been?

Thanks a ton, good people. I am about to drop $74k on a new Lariat and want to make the best engine choice I can, knowing that not everything is perfect.
I was driving a 2012 F150 Platinum 185k miles used it for work so it was rode hard. I would not consider anything but the 5.0 V8, power, reliability. But recently I purchased a 2023 Lariat with the V6 3.5 Ecoboost and I have to say, I really like the engine. Plenty of power and it even sounds good! I talked to the dealer and sought out advice here on this board and I'm comfortable with the reliability based on the number of engines out there. So far so good!

Another thing I'd add is that the vehicle / use can impact the satisfaction with a particular engine. I thought about downsizing to a Ranger. My dealer gave me one for an extended test drive when I was waiting for my Bronco. I returned the vehicle and said, absolutely not hated the 2.3 no way I would be happy with a 4 cylinder. I was concerned that I had the 2.3 L on order in my Bronco because I wanted the manual transmission. But my 2DR 2.3L MT Bronco is awesome, plenty of power and very happy with the performance.
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I've got the 5.0 and love it.

The 3.5, now in its third generation, has hopefully every gremlin exorcised. It was never a bad engine but those timing chain tensioner issues and cost to fix was enough to push me towards the 5.0.

However, the 3.5 has tons to like, especially if you want to get the 2.4 or 7.3KW set up. If towing, we all like the extra torque it offers over the 5.0 definitely has its attraction.
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Originally Posted by henfield
I've got the 5.0 and love it.

The 3.5, now in its third generation, has hopefully every gremlin exorcised. It was never a bad engine but those timing chain tensioner issues and cost to fix was enough to push me towards the 5.0.

However, the 3.5 has tons to like, especially if you want to get the 2.4 or 7.3KW set up. If towing, we all like the extra torque it offers over the 5.0 definitely has its attraction.
Thanks for your thoughts on this. I probably would have stayed with the 5.0....which I currently have.....just couldn't do it on account of the cylinder deactivation they have now incorporated into it. My trusted mechanic guided me to the 5.0 for my 2018 Lariat.....I mentioned that the newer 5.0 engines now have cylinder deactivation....and he wrinkled up his face and said, 'I believe they ha e all the Ecoboost issues worked out.....I'd go with the turbo engines over cylinder deactivation.

So that is what I did. I am still a little nervous about doing so....but am going to give it a go.

Ford has used turbos for years....now Toyota only uses a turbo setup.....Ram just ditched the Hemi and is using a turbo o ly option....and GM - which sucks...haha....uses them on their inline 4 engine and I believe that has worked out pretty well....which is hard to believe from GM product....lol
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