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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 07:59 AM
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Yes I do and I thought I have the generator off so I'm not buying thats the issue.
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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 08:25 AM
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Yes I do and I thought I have the generator off so I'm not buying thats the issue.
I'm not either but it is a point in common. Pro Power might not be the cause but it could be a faulty module that is picking up an RFI from it.

As for the other comment about taking it back to the dealer I've already come to the same conclusion. However, you have already been down that road with no resolution, correct?

Did your dealer try testing, flashing or replacing any electronics and in particular the RTM?
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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 10:26 AM
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After doing some online searches I noticed in posts on this and other forums that the RTM (Radio Transceiver Module) also controls things like remote starting and keyless entry. I've noticed more than once that the lock/unlock feature on my driver side door handle does not always work. When you swipe the button on the outside of the handle the doors should lock but that is inconsistent at best. I'm starting to suspect that the RTM or a connection to it is the real culprit.

On a probably unrelated issue, I've also experienced my tailgate not operating correctly. At least twice, and the last time was just a couple of days ago, when I hit the button on the power tailgate the tailgate just drops as if it has no power feature. This happened with the truck running. If I shut the truck off and then restart it the tailgate works fine again. While researching the TPMS issue I came across a TSB for the tailgate. It basically stated that the control module for that function needs to be updated.

I'm starting to think the electronics could be a major problem once the truck is out of warranty. I did purchase an extended warranty through the selling dealer so hopefully that was a good decision.

Just made an appointment with the dealer for the 27th.

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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 03:03 PM
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Do a TPMS relearn.
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Old Mar 14, 2025 | 07:03 PM
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I had the truck back to the dealer today (3/14/25) to try and get the TPMS issue resolved using the 2019 Raptor wheels on my 2023 Tremor. Turns out my initial diagnoses of one of the sensors being bad was correct, sort of. They replaced the sensor in that wheel and were able to manually retrain the other three to the truck. However, the service tech said he wouldn't be at all surprised if the system fails again.

I also found out today that for 2023 (and possibly other years) your F-150 might have either 315 or 433 Mhz sensors and I believe it depends on how the truck is equipped. That came directly from the Ford dealer parts dept. My truck uses the 315 Mhz sensors and, unfortunately, when I bought four new sensors for the Raptor wheels I bought a set that the description of said were for 2017 through 2024 F-150s but they were the 433 Mhz sensors. So today I had to pay the Ford dealer price for one 315 Mhz sensor which was about four times what I paid elsewhere for all four of those 433 Mhz sensors and those four also have a Motorcraft part number on them. Geez.

When I had the truck there on 2/27/25 I had reinstalled the original Tremor wheels and they were able to retrain the sensors on those wheels which was kind of a waste of time since the problem was only partially with the Raptor wheels. I did that because I didn't want the Raptor wheels to mislead the dealer tech in case it was an issue with the truck and not the sensors. As a matter of fact, on the way to dealer on that first trip all four sensor readouts flipped to blank lines and that was with the Tremor wheels!

A few days after getting the Tremor wheel sensors working again I put the Raptor wheels back on and drove about 15 miles and all four sensor positions flipped to blank readouts again. It would reset on every startup but would fail again within 15 miles. The readouts were also at least 3 PSI low compared to my tire gauge and they were different than the readouts for the tires on the Tremor wheels. So the system is trying to reset itself but can't quite get there.

I also purchased the same retraining "clicker" tool that the service tech had which he and I both bought on Amazon for $9.99. It wouldn't do anything on the Raptor sensors. I asked the tech about that today and asked if he could try using mine instead. I didn't get to talk to him again so I don't know if he did that or not. I also questioned whether the frequency the tool uses was an issue and he said no because the tool can deal with both 315 and 433 Mhz frequencies.

Anyway, there is still an issue with the truck no longer being able to retrain the sensors on its own, which it was able to do when I first installed the Raptor wheels a year and a half ago. I actually had a puncture in one of those tires about six months ago and the system was even able to issue a low air pressure alert for that tire. Coincidently (or not?), that is the same tire that had the TPMS failure.

I had found and printed a copy of TSB 23-2218 before my previous visit on 2/27/25 and showed it to the service tech at that time and he mentioned that again today so I think that's the one they are using to try and fix this TPMS relearning issue but I'll confirm that on my next visit. It involves re-wiring the radio transceiver module (RTM) to eliminate radio frequency interference (RFI) from the power inverter that is part of the Pro Power Onboard system. Unfortunately, the RTM is located inside the headliner on the upper right rear corner of the cab. The TSB also specifies certain parts that the dealer doesn't stock so I will have to take the truck back once they get those parts.

I just went back and re-read TSB 23-2218 and part of the procedure is doing a 20 minute road test which they had me do today so I'm almost positive that is the same TSB they are using. Ha!

The lady working at the service desk said mine was the first truck they have had this issue with.

If nothing else this has certainly been an educational exercise for everyone.

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Old May 20, 2025 | 02:26 PM
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I also have a 2023 Lariat. Have a similar issue. I started getting a message that there was a TPMS malfunction, and one tire didn't read pressure. I took it to the dealer as it is still under warranty. They kept it several days. They found that no Ford sensor would calibrate. They ended up putting an aftermarket sensor on it, and it calibrated. No more issues until a week ago. I had taken it in to the dealer for service, they rotated the tires, and the next day I got the same message.

When I'm on the road for about and hour, I get the message, and a the pressure doesn't read, but after a little while it goes back to normal and reads all the pressures. It seems to go off and on as I keep driving.

I haven't taken it back yet. I'm thinking about getting rid of it. I've has several electronics issues since I bought it. I bought it new. I only have 16k miles on it, so I should get a decent trade in.
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Old May 20, 2025 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by doug77house
I also have a 2023 Lariat. Have a similar issue. I started getting a message that there was a TPMS malfunction, and one tire didn't read pressure. I took it to the dealer as it is still under warranty. They kept it several days. They found that no Ford sensor would calibrate. They ended up putting an aftermarket sensor on it, and it calibrated. No more issues until a week ago. I had taken it in to the dealer for service, they rotated the tires, and the next day I got the same message.

When I'm on the road for about and hour, I get the message, and a the pressure doesn't read, but after a little while it goes back to normal and reads all the pressures. It seems to go off and on as I keep driving.

I haven't taken it back yet. I'm thinking about getting rid of it. I've has several electronics issues since I bought it. I bought it new. I only have 16k miles on it, so I should get a decent trade in.
Does your truck have Pro Power On-Board? If it does then you might want to have your dealer perform TSB 23-2218. On my truck, the inverter for the Pro Power On-Board was emitting an RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) that was screwing with the signal between the TPMS sensors and the RTM (Radio Transceiver Module) which is located in the roof. The TSB shows the dealer how to add extra shielding on the wiring to the RTM. Seems to have cured my TPMS issues.

Now if I could just get rid of the damned window bounce back nonsense. I had the TSB done for that about nine months ago and it was fine until the weather warmed up again. Now I have to do the manual reset at least once a day just to get the damned driver's window to stay closed. POS system for sure!
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Old May 21, 2025 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by blksn8k
Does your truck have Pro Power On-Board? If it does then you might want to have your dealer perform TSB 23-2218. On my truck, the inverter for the Pro Power On-Board was emitting an RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) that was screwing with the signal between the TPMS sensors and the RTM (Radio Transceiver Module) which is located in the roof. The TSB shows the dealer how to add extra shielding on the wiring to the RTM. Seems to have cured my TPMS issues.

Now if I could just get rid of the damned window bounce back nonsense. I had the TSB done for that about nine months ago and it was fine until the weather warmed up again. Now I have to do the manual reset at least once a day just to get the damned driver's window to stay closed. POS system for sure!
Well to be honest, I have no idea if it has the Pro Power On-Board. I really don't know what that is. But, I'll find out and mention this TSB to my dealer. Thanks for the info
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Old May 21, 2025 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by doug77house
Well to be honest, I have no idea if it has the Pro Power On-Board. I really don't know what that is. But, I'll find out and mention this TSB to my dealer. Thanks for the info
Pro Power On-Board gives you 2Kw of power from two 120V AC outlets in the bed. If your truck has two alternators then it has Pro Power On-Board.
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