3.0L advice needed
I was looking to research this engine and thought this would be the place. Am I in the wrong place. Looking to buy a new '18 platinum this year and right now you can actually buy the 3.0L for less money than a 3.5eco. Is that because nobody wants them? If I could average low 20's mpg, I would use it as my daily driver. Also plan on buying a camper next year ~5000lbs. Any input would be appreciated.
Last edited by valiant; May 4, 2019 at 10:45 AM. Reason: added more detail
Around our area diesel is around ninety cents more a gallon. I would not get one unless I had to tow on a regular basis OR kept my vehicle for a long time.
There are a few threads on the 3.0 vs the 3.5. Just look around
There are a few threads on the 3.0 vs the 3.5. Just look around
This seems like as good a place as any to make a first post. It looks like the OP didn't get an answer to his question. I'm driving the new diesel and I love it. (18 Lariat 500A 4x4 Crew) I've read that you'll probably have to drive it a 150k to break even with he fuel savings. That may or may not be true. I don't care. I've also read that it's slow, sluggish and if you're towing something it's an absolute dog. That hasn't been my experience. It makes me wonder if they took it out of transport mode. I read one test where they were complaing about performance and the test was being conducted at 5,000 ft above sea level! I just passed 6500 miles on the truck. The average over that period is 20.9MPG. That includes towing a 22ft enclosed trailer with 2 side by sides (est total weight 5,000lb) 1200 miles, a 2200 lb trailer 500 miles and 100 miles at 4,000lbs. That's through the Green mountains from NY to ME and back. It was a chore fro my 11 w/ 5.0L to maintain 70mph going over those long grades on I-91. The 5.0 could not maintain the speed on the cruise control, it would start slowing down and I'd have to step on the pedal and down shift to 3rd or 4th to maintain speed. (3.55 axle). The diesel holds the speed at 70 and I'm cruising up the hill at about 2,000 rpms in 7th or 8th. for those of you that are familiar with the hill on RT 4 in VT that goes up to Killington ski resort the cruise holds the truck at 50mph (the speed limit) towing the 5k lb trailer at 2000 rpms in 7th gear. (also a 3.55 axle).
I have no complaints about acceleration. If I'm not careful I spin the tires when taking a hard right or left from a stop sign. At 74 mph with the drive mode in Eco I'll average 27mpg from Glens falls to Boston via the Mass Pike through the Berkshires in western MA. Nearly 29 if I keep it at 70. I just made another trip out there this week. I filled the 26 gallon tank, drove the 450 mile round trip and still show 200 miles to empty.
The attached video is the truck headed up the road to Killington headed towards Rutland. Cruise control only. At one point you'll see it upshifts. Towards the top it accelerates to 55mph. That's all cruise control. I tapped the button 5 times.
As another poster said somewhere else in this forum it's the smoothest truck I've ever driven and I've been selling Ford trucks for 24 years.
I've read lot's of posts saying the torque is only 440, or the 5.0 makes almost the same at 400. The 3.0 max torque is at 1750 rpms, that's not much over idle! Probably why it's so smooth, you're rarely over 2500 rpms. The 5.0 is making it's power at 4500 rpms. As that same previous poster said, don't knock it if you haven't driven it! Or to paraphrase an old cereal "commercial, try it, you'll like it! "
I have no complaints about acceleration. If I'm not careful I spin the tires when taking a hard right or left from a stop sign. At 74 mph with the drive mode in Eco I'll average 27mpg from Glens falls to Boston via the Mass Pike through the Berkshires in western MA. Nearly 29 if I keep it at 70. I just made another trip out there this week. I filled the 26 gallon tank, drove the 450 mile round trip and still show 200 miles to empty.
The attached video is the truck headed up the road to Killington headed towards Rutland. Cruise control only. At one point you'll see it upshifts. Towards the top it accelerates to 55mph. That's all cruise control. I tapped the button 5 times.
As another poster said somewhere else in this forum it's the smoothest truck I've ever driven and I've been selling Ford trucks for 24 years.
I've read lot's of posts saying the torque is only 440, or the 5.0 makes almost the same at 400. The 3.0 max torque is at 1750 rpms, that's not much over idle! Probably why it's so smooth, you're rarely over 2500 rpms. The 5.0 is making it's power at 4500 rpms. As that same previous poster said, don't knock it if you haven't driven it! Or to paraphrase an old cereal "commercial, try it, you'll like it! "
Last edited by Im4seven; Apr 23, 2022 at 03:30 PM. Reason: correct typo
Time for an update. So the truck in the post above was my demo at the dealership. I put about 10,500 miles on it before we sold it in May of 2020. The average miles per gallon for the entire 10,500 miles was 20.something. (don't remember exactly but less than 20.5) I was going to buy it but somebody offered WAY more than I was willing to pay thanks to the pandemic. I had planned to buy a 22 diesel, but Ford forced my hand by canceling the diesel, citing a low take rate and the new hybrid. I'm not surprised about the low take rate since other than the initial news release and the subsequent write ups in the following month or two I don't recall seing any advertising or other promotionial efforts by Ford for this engine. It probably didn't help that initially it was only available on Lariat and above which I thought was dumb since the XLT is the most popular model. Anyway, I got my order in for a 21 diesel Crew before the deadline and took delievery in Dec 21. After almost 4 years of production most of the F-150 customers I talk to still don't know this engine was available. I voted it best engine noboby knows about, LOL! Way to go Ford!
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Time for an update. So the truck in the post above was my demo at the dealership. I put about 10,500 miles on it before we sold it in May of 2020. The average miles per gallon for the entire 10,500 miles was 20.something. (don't remember exactly but less than 20.5) I was going to buy it but somebody offered WAY more than I was willing to pay thanks to the pandemic. I had planned to buy a 22 diesel, but Ford forced my hand by canceling the diesel, citing a low take rate and the new hybrid. I'm not surprised about the low take rate since other than the initial news release and the subsequent write ups in the following month or two I don't recall seing any advertising or other promotionial efforts by Ford for this engine. It probably didn't help that initially it was only available on Lariat and above which I thought was dumb since the XLT is the most popular model. Anyway, I got my order in for a 21 diesel Crew before the deadline and took delievery in Dec 21. After almost 4 years of production most of the F-150 customers I talk to still don't know this engine was available. I voted it best engine noboby knows about, LOL! Way to go Ford!


