What Motor Should You Buy in an 2018 -2019 F150 ?
02-03-2019, 11:53 AM
#31
I will put up another vote for the 2.7 as the all around best half ton motor for daily use/occasional towing. It rivals the NA V6’s on fuel economy and will throw down with most of the V8’s on power. Only really the 6.2 GM will outclass it in power/torque, but even then its not by much.
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Mark Miller (02-04-2019)
02-10-2019, 01:22 AM
#33
Heat Miser
Because dynos vary wildly, their best use is to chart improvement(s), not comparing base hp figures derived on different dynos.
You' baseline your vehicle, then come back again to the SAME dyno after you've installed your mods, then chart the improvement. The total number isn't really relevant. It's the gain that's important
Regarding your questioning of the diesel number(looks like the torque figure shown is higher than Ford's claim), it could simply be down to this dyno reading higher than Ford's. Altitude and weather can also play a part .
02-23-2019, 08:23 PM
#34
Senior Member
Good points , its about the whole curve not just a number .. the 50 makes lots less TQ where one drives thats what stands out to us here. the diesel is just a good reference point for the got to have a diesel engine. i cant imagine the 50L being around in a gen 3 in a truck unless its turbo charged or something . the local dealer here as more 50 on the lot than any other engine. in our opinion the 2.7 gen 2 is the best motor of all of them gets the best mileage and makes good tq. and is calibrated the best from Ford. again our opinion. one other point in the 27 15-17 vs 18 all Ford did was command more Driver Demand to get more power thats it aka turned it up
02-27-2019, 03:29 PM
#35
Every dyno reads differently, and you can fudge the numbers by lowering the smoothing number(the lower the number the more erratic the graph, which can add a couple of bogus hp's). FWIW, the plot you posted shows the smoothing set at 5, which is the most 'honest' way to show it.
Because dynos vary wildly, their best use is to chart improvement(s), not comparing base hp figures derived on different dynos.
You' baseline your vehicle, then come back again to the SAME dyno after you've installed your mods, then chart the improvement. The total number isn't really relevant. It's the gain that's important
Regarding your questioning of the diesel number(looks like the torque figure shown is higher than Ford's claim), it could simply be down to this dyno reading higher than Ford's. Altitude and weather can also play a part .
Because dynos vary wildly, their best use is to chart improvement(s), not comparing base hp figures derived on different dynos.
You' baseline your vehicle, then come back again to the SAME dyno after you've installed your mods, then chart the improvement. The total number isn't really relevant. It's the gain that's important
Regarding your questioning of the diesel number(looks like the torque figure shown is higher than Ford's claim), it could simply be down to this dyno reading higher than Ford's. Altitude and weather can also play a part .
03-12-2019, 11:48 PM
#36
Does Todd work for 5-star now? lol.
The 2.7l continues to amaze me. I bought it on a late minute tax write off initially wanting the 5.0 - being a V8 guy. Knowing that I'd be trading it in a year or so if I wanted to, I wasn't too concerned..
After more than a year, I have no desire to trade "up" to the 5.0. If anything, maybe a higher trim 3.5l but for now I'm perfectly content.
It is funny how the dynos shown in this thread, along with 5-star's opinion, really seem to rustle some of the 5.0 guy's jimmies.
The 2.7l continues to amaze me. I bought it on a late minute tax write off initially wanting the 5.0 - being a V8 guy. Knowing that I'd be trading it in a year or so if I wanted to, I wasn't too concerned..
After more than a year, I have no desire to trade "up" to the 5.0. If anything, maybe a higher trim 3.5l but for now I'm perfectly content.
It is funny how the dynos shown in this thread, along with 5-star's opinion, really seem to rustle some of the 5.0 guy's jimmies.
03-14-2019, 11:49 PM
#37
Well, I have been driving a 2.7 for the last 5 weeks. Ugh. Lazy throttle, laggy stock shift schedule / tune. Not for me.
I look forward to driving either of my 5.0's every time, even to work! This 2.7 is an appliance, and I know it should have way more bottom end that my 5.0, but it just doesn't. It winds up pretty good if you put it in Sport and brake torque it, but that's about it.
7 weeks total of daily driving this truck, and I would never buy one. Ever.
For the record, I am comparing this to the stock cal 2018 5.0......not the tuned cal. That said, I've been driving a 2.7 for a total of 7 weeks, cuz that's how much time my 2018 5.0 has been in the shop in the last 3 months. Holy lemon batman, (and incompetent dealer)
I look forward to driving either of my 5.0's every time, even to work! This 2.7 is an appliance, and I know it should have way more bottom end that my 5.0, but it just doesn't. It winds up pretty good if you put it in Sport and brake torque it, but that's about it.
7 weeks total of daily driving this truck, and I would never buy one. Ever.
For the record, I am comparing this to the stock cal 2018 5.0......not the tuned cal. That said, I've been driving a 2.7 for a total of 7 weeks, cuz that's how much time my 2018 5.0 has been in the shop in the last 3 months. Holy lemon batman, (and incompetent dealer)
Last edited by isthatahemi; 03-14-2019 at 11:52 PM.
03-15-2019, 01:08 PM
#38
Senior Member
Well, I have been driving a 2.7 for the last 5 weeks. Ugh. Lazy throttle, laggy stock shift schedule / tune. Not for me.
I look forward to driving either of my 5.0's every time, even to work! This 2.7 is an appliance, and I know it should have way more bottom end that my 5.0, but it just doesn't. It winds up pretty good if you put it in Sport and brake torque it, but that's about it.
7 weeks total of daily driving this truck, and I would never buy one. Ever.
For the record, I am comparing this to the stock cal 2018 5.0......not the tuned cal. That said, I've been driving a 2.7 for a total of 7 weeks, cuz that's how much time my 2018 5.0 has been in the shop in the last 3 months. Holy lemon batman, (and incompetent dealer)
I look forward to driving either of my 5.0's every time, even to work! This 2.7 is an appliance, and I know it should have way more bottom end that my 5.0, but it just doesn't. It winds up pretty good if you put it in Sport and brake torque it, but that's about it.
7 weeks total of daily driving this truck, and I would never buy one. Ever.
For the record, I am comparing this to the stock cal 2018 5.0......not the tuned cal. That said, I've been driving a 2.7 for a total of 7 weeks, cuz that's how much time my 2018 5.0 has been in the shop in the last 3 months. Holy lemon batman, (and incompetent dealer)
03-18-2019, 10:26 PM
#39
I felt the same way when I had a rental base model XLT crew cab with the 2.7 with 3.55’s Just had nothing down low. Below 2400 was a complete dog compared to my 3.73 5.0. Once wound up it was fine and moved prettt good. But for coasting around it just seemed dead where you drive it 90% or the time (below 2000 rpm).
03-19-2019, 03:28 AM
#40
I felt the same way when I had a rental base model XLT crew cab with the 2.7 with 3.55’s Just had nothing down low. Below 2400 was a complete dog compared to my 3.73 5.0. Once wound up it was fine and moved prettt good. But for coasting around it just seemed dead where you drive it 90% or the time (below 2000 rpm).