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VMP vs Lund vs AED vs ID Motorsports + nGauge vs SCT GTX

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Old 09-14-2018, 01:25 PM
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Here is part of an email conversation I had with Ken about custom tuning my 2018.

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The 3.5” pulley is likely going to require ethanol though. 12 psi on 93 with this compression ratio is pushing the limit. The stock pump and Whipple supplied injectors will support an E50 mix, no problem.
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Boost pressure is not really the issue. Boost is just a measurement of resistance. Boost lowers when you allow the engine to breathe better by freeing up the exhaust, etc. But cylinder pressures are what count. Even though boost will read lower with the long tubes, you’re still flowing the same CFM of air, your just doing it more efficiently. That helps, in terms of keeping things safe, but cylinder pressures will still be very high for 93 octane, in my experience. If E85 isn’t an option you can use Torco or Boostane, or even unleded race gas. Either way, more octane is needed to keep things safe.

Here is what Whipple released for the 2018 Dual Injection 5.0

Originally Posted by Whipple
PULLEY/BOOST/132MM TB

SC Pulley/Boost/stock balancer

4.000" 9.5
3.875" 10.5
3.750" 11.5
3.625" 12.5
3.500" 13.5
3.375" 14.5
3.250" 15.5
3.125" 16.5
3.000" 17.5
2.875" 18.5
2.750" 19.5
20% OD is worth just over 5psi.
Long tubes with cats drops boost .5-1.0psi.
Long tubes with no cats drops boost 1.0-1.5psi.

Many other factors can vary boost +/- 1psi.


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It just so happens that I have longtubes with no cats sitting in a box in my garage.
Which ones did you go with? I’m leaning towards Kooks just because their catless y-pipe truly connects to the factory cat-back and I already have a custom Stainless Works 3.5” cat-back I’d like to keep.
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Anyone know if the Kooks green cats actually work with regards to keeping the 02 sensors in check? I'm in a smog county and don't want to deal with cheating the rear 02 sensors, but don't want to drop on the money on the green cats if they don't work. There are no friendly inspection stations in my area either .

I was personally thinking a shorty header with the MAK catless y-pipe that could be switched back to stock y-pipe for smog time. I'm really just concerned about the stock cats melting down.
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The stock cats will last longer then aftermarket.

I have had 2 sets of greens and no check engine lights, Kooks says 90% chance of no CEL.

Your mileage may very.

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Originally Posted by UNBROKEN

Which ones did you go with? I’m leaning towards Kooks just because their catless y-pipe truly connects to the factory cat-back and I already have a custom Stainless Works 3.5” cat-back I’d like to keep.
I have a set of OBX 304 polished stainless with 3" connector pipes that have mini resonators where the cats would be. It Ys into a 3" pipe that connects to the catback. I have had these for 1 year and 7 months. I bought them to put on my 2016 Procharged truck but never did. I caught them on sale on Ebay for barely over $700 shipped.

I had Kooks coated headers on my Lightning and I have to say the quality and materials of these OBX headers are real close.
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I’ll have to check those out. I was gonna add resonators where the cats go myself.
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Originally Posted by TX-Ripper
Good news Whipple is about to drop an new cal to “greatly improve transmission tuning” and make a little more power.
I have ran four different Whipple cals and only know that at the time they were the latest and the date that they sent them to me. Whipple needs to identify each cal revision with a version so that was you know what cal you are running.
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They only flash forward with the tomahawk.

You can't flash and old version after flashing a newer one.

(unless you have a back up read with hptuners)
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Originally Posted by TX-Ripper
They only flash forward with the tomahawk.

You can't flash and old version after flashing a newer one.

(unless you have a back up read with hptuners)
Correct but it would be easier for someone to verify that they were running the latest version if they could reference a version number.
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Originally Posted by Brand


Correct but it would be easier for someone to verify that they were running the latest version if they could reference a version number.
I believe Jeff Tellers at Whipple said they are working on that because it even confuses them.


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