Roush 3.5L EcoBoost - Perfomance Pac Tune - Question
03-16-2018, 07:05 PM
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My truck goes in for the Roush flash tune in about a hour. My Ford dealer assures me that it will not void any of my warranty. I will report back as soon as I pick it up. Truck has Borla Exhaust, Roush CAI and now will have tune. Tank was drained and Shell 91 no ethanol gas put in.
Wish me luck.
Wish me luck.
In the end, I lost all faith in the dealer and decided not to do it while under warranty. Not sure I even trust them to do the work at this point when they could not comprehend such a simple question. They should have just said no it will void your powertrain warranty and I would have to get the 36k Roush one. They never gave in and assured me the factory powertrain warranty would still be good.
Good luck.
03-17-2018, 10:21 AM
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A lot of them think that just because it’s Roush parts it won’t void your warranty. A lot of it has to do with the shop. If the people running the shop say you’re good then you’re probably alright unless Ford sends out a rep to pull PCM logs and uploads to Ford.
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03-17-2018, 11:01 AM
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I'm happy with what I've got as it is, but I'm wondering about the warranty.
If you had this installed at a Roush dealer, would there be a difference? Seems there'd be less hassle from Ford, and you'd already have the Roush gods smiling on you.
But ya, I agree, as far as the regular Ford dealers, I can see some balking at the idea.
If you had this installed at a Roush dealer, would there be a difference? Seems there'd be less hassle from Ford, and you'd already have the Roush gods smiling on you.
But ya, I agree, as far as the regular Ford dealers, I can see some balking at the idea.
03-18-2018, 01:57 AM
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According to the lady trying to sell me the Roush parts at the Roush Ford dealership it doesn’t void the warranty. But talking to the service advisors at the same dealership netted me a different answer. It sounds like the parts wanted to sell parts, and the service department wanted to cover their butt.
I purchased a HP Tuner and backed up my factory config, I will also back up the Roush config, and if the time comes I can flash it back to factory.
Still waiting to hear some testimonial on how good this is.
I purchased a HP Tuner and backed up my factory config, I will also back up the Roush config, and if the time comes I can flash it back to factory.
Still waiting to hear some testimonial on how good this is.
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03-19-2018, 07:49 AM
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This is just one of the fist review/comment I will make on the Roush 3.5L ecoBoost tune. Please note that I know all of this is subjective and I am just trying to help people out who are thinking about getting this tune. I am in no way affiliated with any company. I just wanted to know about the tune before I bought it and there was not a lot of reviews out there.
After a Few DAYS…
My original Questions?
- Did gas mileage go way down?
So, I’ve only put a couple hundred kilometers on the truck but I can already notice that the mileage is affected by the tune. In city it is very easy to press on the loud pedal and watch the mileage go way down, but on the highway, I think with the cruise control set I am getting better mileage then before. As with all mileage on this truck I think that driving habits and wind plays more of a part then the tune. Did my mileage do way down – No, if I drive nice I still seem to be getting good mileage.
- Does truck shift smoothly still?
I have noticed a big difference in the way the truck shifts. I drive a hilly route on my daily commute and noticed right away that the truck does not shift as much. When I am going up a step grade the truck seems to have way more torque and does not down shift as much or at all. This is also noticeable when driving on the highway and accelerating. The truck tends to just accelerate instead of downshifting then accelerating. With the 10-speed transmission this is making for a smoother ride. Does the truck stick shift smooth – I would say even better.
- Is there noticeable power gain? (not looking for miracles)
I did put in shell 91 octane gas before the tune. My seat of the pants dyno tells me the truck is defiantly quicker. Is it mind blowing fast – Not really. So, I would imagine that with 89 fuel you might not notice a really difference. Is there a noticeable power gain – Yes, but it is not going to turn your truck into a race car.
- Is the truck "Drive-able" on Street/Highway?
So far, I would rate this as a mild tune. A lot more torque at low RPM but nothing crazy.
- Any overheating issue?
No to report at this time (its winter)
- Would you do it again?
At this time yes but will report back.
- Pros. vs Cons.?
Pros - Truck seems to shift less frequently, may be getting a bit better gas mileage on highway, noticeable amount of torque gain at low RPM, truck is more fun to drive.
Cons - Without putting 91 in the tank I don’t know how much of a difference you would notice. This could be disappointing. 91 octane costs me about $20 more a tank. Because the truck is fun to drive this means I press the loud pedal more which is driving overall gas mileage down.
I will report back in a week or so. If anyone has any specific questions please let me know.
After a Few DAYS…
My original Questions?
- Did gas mileage go way down?
So, I’ve only put a couple hundred kilometers on the truck but I can already notice that the mileage is affected by the tune. In city it is very easy to press on the loud pedal and watch the mileage go way down, but on the highway, I think with the cruise control set I am getting better mileage then before. As with all mileage on this truck I think that driving habits and wind plays more of a part then the tune. Did my mileage do way down – No, if I drive nice I still seem to be getting good mileage.
- Does truck shift smoothly still?
I have noticed a big difference in the way the truck shifts. I drive a hilly route on my daily commute and noticed right away that the truck does not shift as much. When I am going up a step grade the truck seems to have way more torque and does not down shift as much or at all. This is also noticeable when driving on the highway and accelerating. The truck tends to just accelerate instead of downshifting then accelerating. With the 10-speed transmission this is making for a smoother ride. Does the truck stick shift smooth – I would say even better.
- Is there noticeable power gain? (not looking for miracles)
I did put in shell 91 octane gas before the tune. My seat of the pants dyno tells me the truck is defiantly quicker. Is it mind blowing fast – Not really. So, I would imagine that with 89 fuel you might not notice a really difference. Is there a noticeable power gain – Yes, but it is not going to turn your truck into a race car.
- Is the truck "Drive-able" on Street/Highway?
So far, I would rate this as a mild tune. A lot more torque at low RPM but nothing crazy.
- Any overheating issue?
No to report at this time (its winter)
- Would you do it again?
At this time yes but will report back.
- Pros. vs Cons.?
Pros - Truck seems to shift less frequently, may be getting a bit better gas mileage on highway, noticeable amount of torque gain at low RPM, truck is more fun to drive.
Cons - Without putting 91 in the tank I don’t know how much of a difference you would notice. This could be disappointing. 91 octane costs me about $20 more a tank. Because the truck is fun to drive this means I press the loud pedal more which is driving overall gas mileage down.
I will report back in a week or so. If anyone has any specific questions please let me know.
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03-19-2018, 02:13 PM
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Thing you have to watch out for on small turbo vehicles is these tunes forcing boost at a lower rpm. Sure, it's nice to have torque at 1500rpm, but that's an incredible amount of stress under load in high gear....the engine is much better off downshifting a few gears to get to 2500rpm than lugging along at low rpm in high gear, even if it makes torque there. Lugging the engine is never good, especially forcing boost in it at 1500-2000rpm in 9th or 10th gear.
Some of these tunes will add in more wastegate duty cycle to create more boost down low. Just something to watch for.
Some of these tunes will add in more wastegate duty cycle to create more boost down low. Just something to watch for.
03-19-2018, 02:21 PM
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True,and it's never good to lug any engine. The boost at low rpm can wreak havoc.
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03-21-2018, 11:11 PM
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Got the tune installed today, looking at the files it seems they increased boost, and that’s about it. Comparing between the factory tune and the Roush tune there weren’t any changes made to the engine timing or fuel, the only change to the transmission is the firmness of the shift. That being said, the tune is really nice. I feel like the driveability is still there while also having more power. I was worried the shifting would be rough, or require it to rev to high rpm’s before it shifted while in regular driving mode. If I want that I will simply change to sport mode. I haven’t been into sport mode yet, I changed spark plugs to NGK Iridiums, bad mistake. They really don’t want you changing the gap, but the gap was set at .32, I wanted .28. So I spent what seemed like a long time closing the gap to be .28, and I feel like I got pretty accurate. But still the MPG dropped by 1 MPG, which to me signaled there might be more problems like not getting a good enough spark. I was really careful not to open the gap with my tool, so I didn’t break them. Anyways, while searching for ones that would fit and came gapped at .28 I found that the new factory spark plugs come gapped at .28 from Ford Performance. I was able to find them for sale at $3 each, 1/3 the price of NGK, so I’m ordering a lot of them haha. So I’ve ordered a set, and they’ll be here tomorrow! When I pulled my factory spark plugs they were all gapped at .32.
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