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General driving impressions: tuned EB vs 5.0 whipple

 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:08 PM
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I test drove a 3.6 EB and 5.0 yesterday. I did a similar test drive 8 months ago. This time I was better able to focus on the engine characteristics. Interestingly, I really did not enjoy the V6 EB. The low throttle input yielded anemic V6 output and feel, then on throttle the turbo lag was obvious but then it hit hard and definitely did not seem linear at all. The 5.0 did not feel like it pulled as hard since it was so linear and progressive but it felt much more predictable, there was no lag, and the low throttle provided better engine power. Both seemed to wake up at 3000 rpm with the downshift. I will choose a NA 5.0 over the 3.6 EB all day, and I do not think my mind could be changed on this. Now planning the whipple on the 5.0 as discussed to make to linear input more impressive.

Next thread will discuss engine mods. Thanks all for the insight and help.
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There is no 3.6....
Im sure you mean 3.5, now hook both those trucks up to a trailer and head up the mountain, absolutely no comparison. EcoBoost tows effortlessly
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I'm a little late to the thread, but it's no contest. Being used to a CTS-V you will never be happy with even a max effort build 3.5 eco. Buy the 5.0 and Whipple it.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:47 AM
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No one builds max effort ecoboosts. Not that they aren't capable, it just isn't done. Most of the "max effort" ecoboosts are actually 3.5 ecoboost blocks that are built and dropped into v6 mustangs and turbocharged. There's a few 1000 whp ones out there right now.
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by w00t692 View Post
No one builds max effort ecoboosts. Not that they aren't capable, it just isn't done. Most of the "max effort" ecoboosts are actually 3.5 ecoboost blocks that are built and dropped into v6 mustangs and turbocharged. There's a few 1000 whp ones out there right now.
I've been on the forum since I bought my truck in March 2015. I have seen 3 or 4 3.5 eco trucks built by forum members in that time that I would consider max effort STREET (or street/track) builds. I guess we have different concepts of what constitutes a max effort build.
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Max effort to me would be fuel system upgrade whatever that needs to constitute, and turbo swaps. I just don't see people doing it really...
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Originally Posted by w00t692 View Post
Max effort to me would be fuel system upgrade whatever that needs to constitute, and turbo swaps. I just don't see people doing it really...
A couple of guys on the other ecoboost forum have spent around $40,000 on Engine, turbos, fuel systems and made 500 wheel.



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2018 eco will make 550/620 on e50. SCAB just broke 11s with tune, 3in res, intake. $1000 for bottom 12s is stout.

If if money is no object, a pullied, custom tuned whipple 5.0 with LTs and fuel system would be king. For a sh*t ton more $$$.
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Old 02-11-2019, 10:42 AM
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A couple of guys on the other ecoboost forum have spent around $40,000 on Engine, turbos, fuel systems and made 500 wheel.



Well new trucks make more than that on the stock turbos and everything else. The problem they're having is overcoming the engine management it seems to me. Not that the motor isn't capable of making power.
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Originally Posted by w00t692 View Post
Well new trucks make more than that on the stock turbos and everything else. The problem they're having is overcoming the engine management it seems to me. Not that the motor isn't capable of making power.
You are probably right, but thatís not the lie they bought into.
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