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5.0 sport truck - 2wd vs 4wd

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Old 06-18-2019, 09:59 PM
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How much functionality do you sacrifice by getting into more extreme drops? Stuff like bottoming out the bump stops with a loaded bed or scraping the undercarriage on more severe approach angles?

And doesn’t the alignment get tougher to achieve?

And i keep reading about vibrations with pinion angles though it seems that can happen with a 2/4 as well.
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Wow, MECP haven't thought about that in ages, think my last certification expired in 1996 or so...
I have dreams of business ownership one day so I went for the cert. Started with a class of six, three dropped out and in the end I was the only one to pay for, take, and pass the test.



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4WD can be lowered about as much as a 2WD and still be usable for launching etc... If you get a 2WD too low it's not going to launch for crap...
I'm going by what I've read around here and other places (at least for the 09 to 14 trucks). Has to do with the angles of the CV axles. Too low and you can start binding or going through boots.



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Originally Posted by Threeper88
How much functionality do you sacrifice by getting into more extreme drops? Stuff like bottoming out the bump stops with a loaded bed or scraping the undercarriage on more severe approach angles?

And doesn’t the alignment get tougher to achieve?

And i keep reading about vibrations with pinion angles though it seems that can happen with a 2/4 as well.
slam air bags alleviate hauling issues. a c notch or short bump stops eliminate bumping the axle. I personally don't have a c notch but use the short stubbers. it does occasionally bump the axle. scraping on a 15+ is much less as they don't have that huge crossmember hanging underneath like mine does, however mine rarely scrapes. pinion angles are sorted on mine and there are no vibrations. alignment is achieved by slotting the lower perches and sliding the control arms in to achieve alignment that is tolerable.

no doubt though, anytime one lowers a vehicle a considerable amount, there will be some resulting issues that will need to be sorted out. Mine is sorted but it did take a while to get there.

anyway as stated earlier, it's just my opinion. i like trucks that have very little gap above the tires, but it isn't the same for everyone. it's purely subjective. it was a fair amount of work with a lot of trial and error to get it where it is and still maintain a comfortable ride.
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Originally Posted by MustangAndy
I have dreams of business ownership one day so I went for the cert. Started with a class of six, three dropped out and in the end I was the only one to pay for, take, and pass the test.

I'm going by what I've read around here and other places (at least for the 09 to 14 trucks). Has to do with the angles of the CV axles. Too low and you can start binding or going through boots.
Good luck! When I took the test(s) in the early 90's I took the first level (I can't remember what they were called but there was a basic, intermediate and master) and passed with an almost perfect score, I decided I'd go ahead and take the intermediate a couple days later however over half the questions were about cellular phone installs etc... I had never even seen a cell phone at the time let alone install one. I read the manual and memorized as much of it as I could and just swagged the rest, luckily I passed by the skin of my teeth! However living in a smallish town and in the early/mid 90's I still never did a mobile phone install...

Yeah, I'm right at the limit at 6/4.5ish and have to be careful when going full lock in 4x4 or mine will get unhappy...
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Only reason I went with 4wd is the boatramps here get a little slippery. I leveled my truck but after running it for awhile with the raptor pull offs and these 3.31 gears I'm gonna lower it back down to stock height in the front...pull the rear block and run some 22" on some 305s. Kinda have the lower sporty 4wd sport truck I've imagined.
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Look at it this way......If you want to retain all the capabilities of your truck, get 4wd. Every caveat posted in this thread starts with 2wd can do such and such, if you change tires, suspension blah blah blah. The only reason to not get it is to save money. Pay less, get less. That's it. The weigh savings is what, 5%? take the money you'd spend on tires. and do one extra power adder. One area I will concede, 2wd will get better mileage, again, cheapness.

And for the performance crowd, 2wd will never win on the street vs 4, and have fun on drag strip tires, or changing back and forth. With 4 wd, any time, anywhere, turn ****, click, = traction.
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Can a lowered 4wd produce 2wd highway mpg? or is there no comparison
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Originally Posted by isthatahemi
Look at it this way......If you want to retain all the capabilities of your truck, get 4wd. Every caveat posted in this thread starts with 2wd can do such and such, if you change tires, suspension blah blah blah. The only reason to not get it is to save money. Pay less, get less. That's it. The weigh savings is what, 5%? take the money you'd spend on tires. and do one extra power adder. One area I will concede, 2wd will get better mileage, again, cheapness.

And for the performance crowd, 2wd will never win on the street vs 4, and have fun on drag strip tires, or changing back and forth. With 4 wd, any time, anywhere, turn ****, click, = traction.
I've been to mexico a few times, never had wheelspin issues
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I prefer high speed runs to digs...so 2wd suits me just fine. 60-150 is just more fun to me than a traditional drag race.
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Originally Posted by w00t692
I've been to mexico a few times, never had wheelspin issues
Now tell the whole story about your wheels. tires and suspension and whatnot, you are making my point for me. It's nice to retain 100% of the capabilities with practically zero drawbacks. My 12.0 run was on 32" all terrains, same tires that get me through snow, mud, up boat launches and across fields. I wasn't saying 2wd traction couldn't be done, was just saying it is compromised.


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