Why has Ford taken such a big step backwards?
#31
New to Fords
Thread Starter
The reason I started this post was not to create s firestorm for my (but honey badger don't give a chit) rather to create a searchable web option for folks looking for a review. And I don't expect someone who just dropped 50k on a new truck to agree that the older model might be better.
The interior front room is smaller not due to the dimension Ford lists on their web page, but due to the dash being so big. It feels as if the dash and everything under it protrudes further into the cabin. I'm sure if I were to measure the distance from the windshield
To the end of the dash the new one would be quite a bit deeper and it feels to me like someone with a large belly is standing too close to me during a conversation.
In the back seat the dimensions must be smaller. I've got 3 kids and a big dog. I bought my truck because there is room for my dogs bed, and him on the floor and there is still room for the kids feet. In the new truck the seat looks the same back there (which is good) but the floor space seems smaller, which made me think the whole front row was probably pushed back due to the enormous dash area taking up so much cab space.
As for the front seats, maybe this 10,000 mile rental truck got bad foam or something, but I'm dreading my 8 hours I'll spend in the truck today, cuz it'll be painful on my back.
The new truck rides nice, shifts nice, radio interface is nice, but not any better than my 2012 lariat. The good stuff simply doesn't outweigh the bad stuff for me.
The interior front room is smaller not due to the dimension Ford lists on their web page, but due to the dash being so big. It feels as if the dash and everything under it protrudes further into the cabin. I'm sure if I were to measure the distance from the windshield
To the end of the dash the new one would be quite a bit deeper and it feels to me like someone with a large belly is standing too close to me during a conversation.
In the back seat the dimensions must be smaller. I've got 3 kids and a big dog. I bought my truck because there is room for my dogs bed, and him on the floor and there is still room for the kids feet. In the new truck the seat looks the same back there (which is good) but the floor space seems smaller, which made me think the whole front row was probably pushed back due to the enormous dash area taking up so much cab space.
As for the front seats, maybe this 10,000 mile rental truck got bad foam or something, but I'm dreading my 8 hours I'll spend in the truck today, cuz it'll be painful on my back.
The new truck rides nice, shifts nice, radio interface is nice, but not any better than my 2012 lariat. The good stuff simply doesn't outweigh the bad stuff for me.
#32
Senior Member
Solid as Sand
While I don't own a '15, I do believe the engineering is solid. The problem is the manufacturing process and assembly. Those of you that have doors that don't align, have wind noise, are hard to shut, or can see the sky through a gap have components that are likely out of spec. The stampings are off. The sad part is, no amount of adjustment will fix that for those that are way out.
That's as explained by another forum member.
#33
The reason I started this post was not to create s firestorm for my (but honey badger don't give a chit) rather to create a searchable web option for folks looking for a review. And I don't expect someone who just dropped 50k on a new truck to agree that the older model might be better.
The interior front room is smaller not due to the dimension Ford lists on their web page, but due to the dash being so big. It feels as if the dash and everything under it protrudes further into the cabin. I'm sure if I were to measure the distance from the windshield
To the end of the dash the new one would be quite a bit deeper and it feels to me like someone with a large belly is standing too close to me during a conversation.
In the back seat the dimensions must be smaller. I've got 3 kids and a big dog. I bought my truck because there is room for my dogs bed, and him on the floor and there is still room for the kids feet. In the new truck the seat looks the same back there (which is good) but the floor space seems smaller, which made me think the whole front row was probably pushed back due to the enormous dash area taking up so much cab space.
As for the front seats, maybe this 10,000 mile rental truck got bad foam or something, but I'm dreading my 8 hours I'll spend in the truck today, cuz it'll be painful on my back.
The new truck rides nice, shifts nice, radio interface is nice, but not any better than my 2012 lariat. The good stuff simply doesn't outweigh the bad stuff for me.
The interior front room is smaller not due to the dimension Ford lists on their web page, but due to the dash being so big. It feels as if the dash and everything under it protrudes further into the cabin. I'm sure if I were to measure the distance from the windshield
To the end of the dash the new one would be quite a bit deeper and it feels to me like someone with a large belly is standing too close to me during a conversation.
In the back seat the dimensions must be smaller. I've got 3 kids and a big dog. I bought my truck because there is room for my dogs bed, and him on the floor and there is still room for the kids feet. In the new truck the seat looks the same back there (which is good) but the floor space seems smaller, which made me think the whole front row was probably pushed back due to the enormous dash area taking up so much cab space.
As for the front seats, maybe this 10,000 mile rental truck got bad foam or something, but I'm dreading my 8 hours I'll spend in the truck today, cuz it'll be painful on my back.
The new truck rides nice, shifts nice, radio interface is nice, but not any better than my 2012 lariat. The good stuff simply doesn't outweigh the bad stuff for me.
#34
Beer Gut Extraordinaire
The dash seems longer because the hood is shorter and the windshield is raked farther back improving fuel economy. There is literally more legroom in the front, you can't argue the specs. And I've owned two 09-14 trucks.
#36
I have long legs, there is not more leg room for the driver. I had to really move the seat around all the way back to make the new truck work for me. The old truck I had a couple of inches to play with towards the rear of the seat track. There is not more leg room in this new truck. Personally I think it is the way the seat moves but none the less I have the peddles all the way down and the seat all the way back. That being said I'm still playing with seat adjustment so I may find a sweet spot for my body build.
Last edited by Rontbeamer; 11-17-2015 at 12:03 PM.
#37
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#38
The physical door design has changed and doesn't fit into the cab and then seal, the door hangs outside the cab and then seals to the outside. Dumb design, but saved a lil weight! Works great with a flexible door. All one can do is adjust and adjust so tightly, but guess what, the flexible door and seals will eventually give and you'll be back to air gaps and road noise.
That's as explained by another forum member.
That's as explained by another forum member.
#39
Senior Member
When did this thing happen that people will stare in the face of ACTUAL DATA AND MEASUREMENTS and tell you that you're wrong? Unreal.
Also "to create a searchable web option for folks looking for a review"? Hey congrats OP, potential F150 buyers now have a place to read a review! Well done. /s
Also "to create a searchable web option for folks looking for a review"? Hey congrats OP, potential F150 buyers now have a place to read a review! Well done. /s