When is a RWD sports car better in the snow than a 4x4 truck?
01-05-2018, 05:11 PM
#51
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01-05-2018, 05:14 PM
#52
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Trucks are just about the worst possible vehicle in snow. With all seasons? come on.
1. Rear wheel drive
2. Light in the rear
3. High center of gravity
4. Add all season tires to this mix?
I'll take any car with snows vs a truck any day. Anyone who says different is either uneducated, or oblivious.
The best vehicle in the snow would be a car with AWD, not too much power, Great Snow Tires, ABS, Traction control system like Audi has on the Quattro, and a driver who knows what he/she is doing.
1. Rear wheel drive
2. Light in the rear
3. High center of gravity
4. Add all season tires to this mix?
I'll take any car with snows vs a truck any day. Anyone who says different is either uneducated, or oblivious.
The best vehicle in the snow would be a car with AWD, not too much power, Great Snow Tires, ABS, Traction control system like Audi has on the Quattro, and a driver who knows what he/she is doing.
Thats not the question. Maybe you need to go back to the first post and re read it
01-05-2018, 06:16 PM
#53
Maybe you've had 40 years of doing it wrong? I do not have snows on this truck yet. I've had them on all sorts of 2wd vehicles, thought front, not rear and this truck is not even close to being as good as those vehicles on snow covered roads. The only advantage I have is when the snow is deep.
I regularly pulled away from SUV's and F150's and every other 4x4 in snow storms with ease in nothing more than a little Pontiac with blizzaks. I could turn and stop much better too. Since they have plows going thru all roads pretty regularly, I never had to worry about going thru a foot of snow. But then that wasn't the original question either.
I regularly pulled away from SUV's and F150's and every other 4x4 in snow storms with ease in nothing more than a little Pontiac with blizzaks. I could turn and stop much better too. Since they have plows going thru all roads pretty regularly, I never had to worry about going thru a foot of snow. But then that wasn't the original question either.
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01-05-2018, 07:10 PM
#54
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Trucks are just about the worst possible vehicle in snow. With all seasons? come on.
1. Rear wheel drive
2. Light in the rear
3. High center of gravity
4. Add all season tires to this mix?
I'll take any car with snows vs a truck any day. Anyone who says different is either uneducated, or oblivious.
The best vehicle in the snow would be a car with AWD, not too much power, Great Snow Tires, ABS, Traction control system like Audi has on the Quattro, and a driver who knows what he/she is doing.
1. Rear wheel drive
2. Light in the rear
3. High center of gravity
4. Add all season tires to this mix?
I'll take any car with snows vs a truck any day. Anyone who says different is either uneducated, or oblivious.
The best vehicle in the snow would be a car with AWD, not too much power, Great Snow Tires, ABS, Traction control system like Audi has on the Quattro, and a driver who knows what he/she is doing.
This, my RWD 235i was way better than any winter tire truck ive had in winter, almost perfect weight balance helps alot too.
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01-05-2018, 07:36 PM
#55
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Better then a 4wd ? Lololol yes ok. Think about this. Rwd better then 4WD?. You do know that 4 wd IS rwd PLUS the added traction of
the front wheels dont you? So let me ask again. How can 1/2 the amount of drive wheels better??
the front wheels dont you? So let me ask again. How can 1/2 the amount of drive wheels better??
01-05-2018, 07:43 PM
#56
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Think of this analogy... can a ball player hit a baseball furthur with one hand or two hands on the bat? Same thing as the 2 wd vs 4wd debate. With two hands he is still using one hand but now has twice as much power( or traction)
01-05-2018, 08:15 PM
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01-05-2018, 08:47 PM
#59
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Funny. I rarely see any 4x4 trucks, suv's, stranded, wiped out in the snow and ice around here. 99.9% of the time its a 2x that does a Dorothy Hamil imitation.
Gearing in a RWD vehicle can make or break a light dusting of snow on a roadway.
I'd never drive any of the Mustangs I have owned in any winter conditions.
The best 4X4 snow vehicle I have ever owned was my old 77 Bronco.
Gearing in a RWD vehicle can make or break a light dusting of snow on a roadway.
I'd never drive any of the Mustangs I have owned in any winter conditions.
The best 4X4 snow vehicle I have ever owned was my old 77 Bronco.
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01-05-2018, 09:05 PM
#60
Tires are everything! I have a little experience with both the car and the truck... Both were big time fun in the snow!
My previous 1993 Mark VIII with 4 studded Blizzaks, 400 pounds below the trunk floor and very functional traction control that basically turned the rear into a posi whenever traction was needed, was hands down the best vehicle I ever drove in ice or snows up to 8" deep. 48% rear weight bias made it corner perfectly. I would leave 4 wheel drives spinning all 4 in my rear view mirror routinely. It had truly jaw dropping acceleration, handling and braking in snow.
My best snow vehicle for deep highway snow was a 1999.5 F250 Crew 4x4 Diesel. On Rt. 91 in Northern Vermont, Big 7.3 turbo diesel at WOT, 70 mph throwing plums of snow off the bumper - that truck earned a lot of first tracks for us back in the day. The skinny studded 255x85 -16 tires (we called them pizza cutters) cut through anything with 4800 pounds on the front axle with just two 7" wide studded tires. It didn't handle nearly as well as the Mark VIII for cornering, but the truck could go through anything we ever encountered. And being ski bum storm chasers, we saw some snow.
Now fast forward to the current 4WD F150 with the crap stock good year tires... if anyone believes this thing can hold a candle to either of the examples above, I can only conclude that they have never experienced "good"
My previous 1993 Mark VIII with 4 studded Blizzaks, 400 pounds below the trunk floor and very functional traction control that basically turned the rear into a posi whenever traction was needed, was hands down the best vehicle I ever drove in ice or snows up to 8" deep. 48% rear weight bias made it corner perfectly. I would leave 4 wheel drives spinning all 4 in my rear view mirror routinely. It had truly jaw dropping acceleration, handling and braking in snow.
My best snow vehicle for deep highway snow was a 1999.5 F250 Crew 4x4 Diesel. On Rt. 91 in Northern Vermont, Big 7.3 turbo diesel at WOT, 70 mph throwing plums of snow off the bumper - that truck earned a lot of first tracks for us back in the day. The skinny studded 255x85 -16 tires (we called them pizza cutters) cut through anything with 4800 pounds on the front axle with just two 7" wide studded tires. It didn't handle nearly as well as the Mark VIII for cornering, but the truck could go through anything we ever encountered. And being ski bum storm chasers, we saw some snow.
Now fast forward to the current 4WD F150 with the crap stock good year tires... if anyone believes this thing can hold a candle to either of the examples above, I can only conclude that they have never experienced "good"
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