What Engine makes sense for me?
#181
Senior Member
I'll up that. I tow with 3 adult guys, gear and food for a week, and towing a boat with the 2.7. It drives so much better than my previous 5.4 F150, that it isn't even funny. Buy with confidence. Most who have done so don;t have a lot of regrets. I know I don't - I got what I wanted. Others needs may be different, and that's OK. The only one who needs to be happy with their engine choice is you.
#182
Senior Member
at $10 more a month for the 5.0 and $15 more a month for the 3.5 .. its better to drive your 3.5 like a 2.7 than drive your 2.7 like a 3.5 when you need it .. its like the guy who posted his 2.7 was a lemon and is having Ford do a buy back when in his own thread calculations prove he was close to or at his towing capacity .. he is lucky Ford didn't read that thread
#183
at $10 more a month for the 5.0 and $15 more a month for the 3.5 .. its better to drive your 3.5 like a 2.7 than drive your 2.7 like a 3.5 when you need it .. its like the guy who posted his 2.7 was a lemon and is having Ford do a buy back when in his own thread calculations prove he was close to or at his towing capacity .. he is lucky Ford didn't read that thread
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doug97gxe (01-10-2019)
#184
Senior Member
Or have what you need and pocket the $450 a year in savings (based on my usage - fuel and monthly cost increase in payment)... Why anyone cares if someone else's truck isn't truck enough for them is beyond me.
The only thing the 3.5 or 5.0 got me was a higher tow rating, more payload, and a bigger bill in cost and fuel mileage. I never tow over 4500 lbs, have enough payload, and my wallet is fatter to boot. Works for me. Maybe not for someone else, but it is still a vaild choice.
Buy what you want and need, not what anyone else thinks you need...
The only thing the 3.5 or 5.0 got me was a higher tow rating, more payload, and a bigger bill in cost and fuel mileage. I never tow over 4500 lbs, have enough payload, and my wallet is fatter to boot. Works for me. Maybe not for someone else, but it is still a vaild choice.
Buy what you want and need, not what anyone else thinks you need...
#185
Senior Member
Or have what you need and pocket the $450 a year in savings (based on my usage - fuel and monthly cost increase in payment)... Why anyone cares if someone else's truck isn't truck enough for them is beyond me.
The only thing the 3.5 or 5.0 got me was a higher tow rating, more payload, and a bigger bill in cost and fuel mileage. I never tow over 4500 lbs, have enough payload, and my wallet is fatter to boot. Works for me. Maybe not for someone else, but it is still a vaild choice.
Buy what you want and need, not what anyone else thinks you need...
The only thing the 3.5 or 5.0 got me was a higher tow rating, more payload, and a bigger bill in cost and fuel mileage. I never tow over 4500 lbs, have enough payload, and my wallet is fatter to boot. Works for me. Maybe not for someone else, but it is still a vaild choice.
Buy what you want and need, not what anyone else thinks you need...
#186
For "typical" daily driving (1500RPM up to 4000RPM range), the 2.7L EcoBoost beats the 5.0 Coyote in both horsepower and torque. At roughly 2.5k RPM the 2.7EB will be making approximately 150HP and 330TQ to the rear wheels, while the 5.0 will be making 120HP and 250TQ to the rear wheels. Up at 4k RPM both engines make roughly 250HP and 330TQ to the rear wheels. It's not until you get above 4k that the Coyote starts to outpace the 2.7EB (the 2.7's max figures are around 4500 RPM). In most day-to-day situations, the EB will be more fuel efficient.
For that matter, at 4k RPM all three (2.7, 3.5, and 5.0) have roughly 250HP and 330TQ to the rear wheels. The 2.7EB also makes all of its peak torque 750 RPM lower than the 3.5EB, and 2000 RPM lower than the Coyote. In daily driving, this should mean fewer shifts as well due to a wider powerband at a lower RPM.
HP / TQ Source:
I would assume the same reason anyone cares if someone else's truck is too much for them .. i guess you don't do much highway driving because the 5.0 will get better gas mileage on the highway than the 2.7 but that's neither here no there .. i think the basis of the thread was to present arguments to those who don't already have trucks to see which engine is best for them.. we can all have different opinions surely that's whey we have choices
2.7:
http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-150...=&submodel_id=
5.0:
http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-150...=&submodel_id=
Last edited by JaredC01; 01-10-2019 at 03:13 PM. Reason: Updated Fuelly links.
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kehyler (01-11-2019)
#187
Senior Member
.. i guess you don't do much highway driving because the 5.0 will get better gas mileage on the highway than the 2.7 but that's neither here no there .. i think the basis of the thread was to present arguments to those who don't already have trucks to see which engine is best for them.. we can all have different opinions surely that's whey we have choices
My truck delivers 5 mpg better than the 5.4 powered truck that it replaced, based on year around fuel mileage, not a spot highway number. Fuelly shows the 5.0 will deliver about 2 MPG less than the 2.7, consistently. (And I know, the I didn't buy a truck for fuel economy people will chime in, but I'd rather spend my money on other things than fuel...)
Buy whatever engine meets your needs and wants. Mine does that for both for me.
Last edited by MNgopher; 01-10-2019 at 03:39 PM.
#188
Senior Member
i really don't understand this don't need extra power .. the 2.7 is rated at 325 hp / 375 TQ and the 3.5 is rated at 400 hp / 480 TQ .. are you telling me everytime a 2.7 owner gets in the truck the use 325 hp? they use 325 hp all day long then get home and go oh man.. good thing i only used 325 hp .. having 400 HP would have been stupid .. i only needed the 325 .. you guys understand how stupid this logic is? like i said.. be free to use any other excuse than extra power when choosing a 3.5 or 2.7 ... you can buy a 3.5 and use 100 hp all day long.. there is no requirement when you get in the truck you MUST use all 400
Last edited by 11screw50; 01-10-2019 at 04:08 PM.
#189
Senior Member
Here's some food for thought...
For "typical" daily driving (1500RPM up to 4000RPM range), the 2.7L EcoBoost beats the 5.0 Coyote in both horsepower and torque. At roughly 2.5k RPM the 2.7EB will be making approximately 150HP and 330TQ to the rear wheels, while the 5.0 will be making 120HP and 250TQ to the rear wheels. Up at 4k RPM both engines make roughly 250HP and 330TQ to the rear wheels. It's not until you get above 4k that the Coyote starts to outpace the 2.7EB (the 2.7's max figures are around 4500 RPM). In most day-to-day situations, the EB will be more fuel efficient.
For that matter, at 4k RPM all three (2.7, 3.5, and 5.0) have roughly 250HP and 330TQ to the rear wheels. The 2.7EB also makes all of its peak torque 750 RPM lower than the 3.5EB, and 2000 RPM lower than the Coyote. In daily driving, this should mean fewer shifts as well due to a wider powerband at a lower RPM.
HP / TQ Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPMOlhkIg9c
While not specifically divided by highway and non-highway, Fuelly puts the 2.7 2 MPG ahead of the 5.0 on the whole.
2.7:
http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-150?engineconfig_id=49&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=
5.0:
http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-150?engineconfig_id=302&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=
For "typical" daily driving (1500RPM up to 4000RPM range), the 2.7L EcoBoost beats the 5.0 Coyote in both horsepower and torque. At roughly 2.5k RPM the 2.7EB will be making approximately 150HP and 330TQ to the rear wheels, while the 5.0 will be making 120HP and 250TQ to the rear wheels. Up at 4k RPM both engines make roughly 250HP and 330TQ to the rear wheels. It's not until you get above 4k that the Coyote starts to outpace the 2.7EB (the 2.7's max figures are around 4500 RPM). In most day-to-day situations, the EB will be more fuel efficient.
For that matter, at 4k RPM all three (2.7, 3.5, and 5.0) have roughly 250HP and 330TQ to the rear wheels. The 2.7EB also makes all of its peak torque 750 RPM lower than the 3.5EB, and 2000 RPM lower than the Coyote. In daily driving, this should mean fewer shifts as well due to a wider powerband at a lower RPM.
HP / TQ Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPMOlhkIg9c
While not specifically divided by highway and non-highway, Fuelly puts the 2.7 2 MPG ahead of the 5.0 on the whole.
2.7:
http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-150?engineconfig_id=49&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=
5.0:
http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-150?engineconfig_id=302&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=
As for the 2.7, yup, it should get the job done for most people...some people like more power though and there are options for that. As I said before , if you go with the 2.7, gotta make sure you get the payload package otherwise, you could very easily run out of payload with 4 adults and a bed full of stuff (and it wouldn't even necessarily need to be a lot of stuff).
#190
Senior Member
And yet you still find a need to dig at why someone else would possibly want the 2.7?
My truck delivers 5 mpg better than the 5.4 powered truck that it replaced, based on year around fuel mileage, not a spot highway number. Fuelly shows the 5.0 will deliver about 2 MPG less than the 2.7, consistently. (And I know, the I didn't buy a truck for fuel economy people will chime in, but I'd rather spend my money on other things than fuel...)
Buy whatever engine meets your needs and wants. Mine does that for both for me.
My truck delivers 5 mpg better than the 5.4 powered truck that it replaced, based on year around fuel mileage, not a spot highway number. Fuelly shows the 5.0 will deliver about 2 MPG less than the 2.7, consistently. (And I know, the I didn't buy a truck for fuel economy people will chime in, but I'd rather spend my money on other things than fuel...)
Buy whatever engine meets your needs and wants. Mine does that for both for me.